How Do You Differentiate a Power Series Like \(\sum \frac{x^n}{n \cdot 3^n}\)?

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The discussion revolves around differentiating a power series represented by the sum \(\sum \frac{x^n}{n \cdot 3^n}\). Participants are exploring the radius of convergence, convergence of the series, and the differentiation of the series to find \(f'(x)\).

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  • Participants discuss finding the radius of convergence and the interval of convergence. There are attempts to differentiate the series term by term, with some questioning the validity of their manipulations and the limits of summation. Others suggest recognizing the series as a geometric series.

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Some participants have provided guidance on manipulating the series and recognizing its form, while others are still uncertain about the correct approach to find a closed expression for \(f'(x)\). There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of the interval of convergence.

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Consider the power series (n=1 to infinity) [tex]\Sigma[/tex] (x^n)/(n*3^n).
(a) Find the radius of convergence for this series.
(b) For which values of x does the series converge? (include the discussion
of the end points).
(c) If f(x) denotes the sum of the series, find f'(x) as explicitly as possible.

I know how to do parts a and b and for the radius I got 3 and the interval looks like this:
-3≤x<3
But I don't understand the last part (c)
I know that since (n=0 to infinity)f(x)= [tex]\Sigma[/tex] c_n(x-a)^n then (n=1 to infinity)f'(x)=[tex]\Sigma[/tex] n*c_n(x-a)^(n-1)
I was looking thru various materials and first I was thinking about finding the representation for the power series but I was not sure how this would help me here since I don't have a function to begin with just the series. Then I was thinking about differentiating by terms but I didn't know how to incorporate the radius of convergence. Finally I did something that I pretty sure is wrong:
(n=1 to infinity)f'(x)=[tex]\Sigma[/tex] n*c_n(x-a)^(n-1) = [tex]\Sigma[/tex] n*(1/(n*3^n))*(x^(n-1))=(1/(3^n))*(x^(n-1))=(x^n)/(x*3^n) for -3≤x<3
But like I said it doesn't seem correct. Any suggestions?
 
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You're close. You don't want to rewrite it the way you did, though. You got to here:

[tex]f'(x) = \sum_{n=1}^\infty \frac{x^{n-1}}{3^n}[/tex]

Now pull out one power of 1/3 so the exponents on the x and the 3 will match, and then adjust the limits of the summation so the exponent is just n instead of n-1. Hopefully, you'll recognize the series and be able to write down the sum in explicit form.
 
Thank you for the quick response.

So we have that:
f'(x)=(n=1 to infinity)∑ (x^n-1)/(3^n) from this it follows that
f'(x)=(n=0 to infinity)∑ (x^n-1)/(3^n-1)
f'(x)=(n=0 to infinity)∑ (x/3)^(n-1)
f'(x)=(n=1 to infinity)∑ (x/3)^(n)

I got confused with limits of the summation am I correct? When you said "Hopefully, you'll recognize the series and be able to write down the sum in explicit form" are you saying that I should use the interval of convergence i.e. -3≤x<3? I guess I'm not sure how to write it explicitly, I don't know how many terms I should write down (my guess is they have to be between -3 [including -3] and 3).
 
No, that's not correct at all. If you expand the first line, you get

[tex]\sum_{n=1}^\infty \frac{x^{n-1}}{3^n} = \frac{1}{3}+\frac{x}{3^2}+\frac{x^2}{3^3}+\cdots[/tex]

If you expand the second line, you get

[tex]\sum_{n=0}^\infty \frac{x^{n-1}}{3^{n-1}} = \frac{3}{x}+1+\frac{x}{3}+\frac{x^2}{3^2}+\cdots[/tex]

Those obviously aren't equal.

Second, you don't use the interval of convergence for anything. If you do the calculation correctly, you should recognize the type of series it is and be able to write down the sum in closed form.
 
Is this kind of manipulations permissible:
f'(x)=(n=1 to infinity)∑ (x^n-1)/(3^n) from this it follows that
f'(x)=(n=1 to infinity)∑ (x^n-1)/(3^n-1+1)
f'(x)=(n=1 to infinity)∑ (1/3)*((x/3)^(n-1))
f'(x)=(n=0 to infinity)∑ (1/3)*(x/3)^(n)

If it is then I'm not sure if I see anything special here, in other words, I don't know how to proceed to find the closed expression for this.
 
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That's good. The series is of the form

[tex]\sum_{n=0}^\infty ar^n[/tex]

It's a geometric series.
 
I have the following DE to be solved through series
y'+xy=1-x+x^2

simply I can't find the right solution, which is :
x-1+A[1-x^2/2+X^4/(4*2!)...
Please help!
 
Edward, you should start a new thread for your problem as it has nothing to do with this thread. Also, the forum policy is that you need to make a reasonable attempt and show your work before you will get any help.
 

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