How Do You Evaluate This Integral with Variables?

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The discussion revolves around evaluating integrals involving absolute values and Gaussian functions, specifically focusing on the transition from two variables to three variables. Participants explore different coordinate systems to simplify the evaluation process.

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  • One participant requests assistance in evaluating a double integral involving the absolute value of a linear combination of variables and Gaussian functions.
  • Another participant suggests transforming the integral into polar coordinates, providing a new expression for the integral in terms of these coordinates.
  • A later participant expresses gratitude for the assistance and inquires about extending the evaluation to a triple integral with three variables.
  • One participant proposes using spherical coordinates as a potential method for the three-variable integral.
  • Another participant suggests an alternative approach by rotating the axes in the variable space, indicating that the exponential expression remains invariant under such transformations and providing a new form for the integral.

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Participants present multiple approaches to the problem, including polar and spherical coordinates, as well as axis rotation. There is no consensus on a single method, and the discussion remains open-ended with various competing views.

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The discussion does not resolve the specifics of the transformations or the final evaluation of the integrals, leaving assumptions and dependencies on the chosen coordinate systems unaddressed.

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Could anyone help me evaluate the integral
[itex] \intop_{-\infty}^{\infty}\intop_{-\infty}^{\infty}|sx+ty|e^{-s^{2}/2}e^{-t^{2}/2}dsdt[/itex], which should be a function of x and y?

By the way, this is not a homework problem.

Thanks
 
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Well, make a shift to polar coordinates:
[tex]s=r\cos\theta,t=r\sin\theta[/tex]
[tex]x=R\cos\phi,y=R\sin\phi[/tex]

Thus, your integral becomes:
[tex]R\int_{0}^{\infty}\int_{0}^{2\pi}|\cos(\theta-\phi)|r^{2}e^{-\frac{r^{2}}{2}}d\theta{d}r[/tex]
 
Thanks a lot for arildno's help. So I am able to get the value of the integral with 2 variable now.

But then how about 3 variables, i.e.
[tex] \intop_{-\infty}^{\infty}\intop_{-\infty}^{\infty}\intop_{-\infty}^{\infty}|rx+sy+tz|e^{-r^{2}/2}e^{-s^{2}/2}e^{-t^{2}/2}drdsdt ?[/tex]
 
Spherical coordinates, perchance??
 
Instead of polar or spherical coordinates, you can also rotate your axis in the (r,s,t,...) space so that one of your axis becomes aligned with the (x,y,z,...) vector. The expression in the exponential is invariant under ratations, so what happens is that the integration becomes:


Integral dt1 dt2...dtn |y t1| exp(-t1^2/2)exp(-t2^2/2)...
exp(-tn^2/2) =

2|y| (2pi)^[(n-1)/2]

where, of course, y = the length of your (x,y,z,...) vector
 
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