How Do You Find a Normal Vector to a Graph?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the methods for finding a normal vector to a surface defined by a function at a specific point. Participants explore various approaches, including the use of gradients and tangent planes, and clarify the distinction between normals to surfaces and functions.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant asks for general steps to find a normal vector to a function at a point, suggesting a connection to the gradient.
  • Another participant clarifies that the normal vector pertains to the surface defined by the function, not the function itself.
  • A suggestion is made to find tangent vectors in both the x and y directions and then take the cross-product to determine the normal vector.
  • It is proposed that the coefficients of the tangent plane equation can be used to identify the components of the normal vector at the specified point.
  • Another participant introduces the concept of treating the surface as a level surface and states that the gradient of a related function yields a normal vector to the surface.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present multiple approaches to finding a normal vector, indicating that there is no single agreed-upon method. The discussion remains unresolved with competing views on the best approach.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the function's properties and the definitions of tangent vectors and normal vectors are not explicitly stated, which may affect the clarity of the proposed methods.

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How do you find a normal vector of a function at a point, such as f(x,y)= ax^y+yx^y^x+b at (X_o,Y_o)

where a and b are just arbitrary constants, and the function is an arbitrary function. So I guess, what is the general steps you take to find the normal? I thought it had to do with the gradient, but I'm still confused.
 
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It's a normal to the surface defined by the function, not a normal to the function.

Off the top of my head, one way would be to find the tangent vectors to the surface in the x direction and in the y direction, and take the cross-product..
 
You can find the tangent plane of the graph at the point ##\left(x_{0},y_{0}\right)##. The coefficients of the tangent plane ## n_{1}x+n_{2}y+n_{3}z+c=0## are the component of the normal vector ## \vec{n}=\left(n_{1},n_{2},n_{3}\right)## of the plane that is a normal vector of ##f(x,y)## at the given point ...
 
Given a surface described by z= f(x, y),the surface can be thought of as a "level surface for the function \phi(x, y, z)= f(x, y)- z= 0 so \nabla (f(x,y- z)= f_x\vec{i}+ f_y\vec{j}- \vec{k} is immediately a vector normal to the surface.
 

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