How Do You Integrate \(\sin(\sqrt{x})\) with Trig Substitution?

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The discussion revolves around the integration of the function \(\sin(\sqrt{x})\) and related integrals, focusing on techniques such as substitution and integration by parts. Participants explore various methods to approach these integrals, including partial fractions and completing the square.

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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests using the substitution \(u = \sqrt{x}\) to transform the integral into a more manageable form.
  • Another proposes using integration by parts with \(u = \sin(x^{1/2})\) and \(dv = dx\) to derive a solvable integral.
  • A later post discusses the integration of a different integral involving \(\frac{1}{4y^{2} - 4y - 3}\) and suggests using partial fractions.
  • Participants also mention completing the square and using substitutions to simplify the integral involving \(\frac{1}{(4y^{2} - 4y - 3)^{1/2}}\).
  • One participant refers to a standard form for integration involving \(\frac{1}{(x^2 + a^2)^{\frac{1}{2}}}\) but expresses doubt about the direction of the current integral approach.
  • Another suggests that a secant substitution might be appropriate after completing the square on the denominator.

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Participants present multiple approaches and techniques for integration, indicating that there is no consensus on a single method for solving the integrals discussed.

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Some methods proposed depend on specific substitutions and transformations that may not be universally applicable without additional context or conditions. The discussion includes various integral forms and techniques that may require further exploration to fully resolve.

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i for the life of me can't figure out how to integrate this:

\int \sin{(x^{1/2})} dx
 
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Make the substitution u = \sqrt{x} which will turn the integral into something like \int \left(\sin{u} \times 2\sqrt{x}\right) du. Apply the substitution again and use integration by parts...
 
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We don't have enough x's in there, so use integration by parts to get some. Let u = sin(x^(1/2)) and dv = dx. After that, you'll get an integral that can be solved through a substitution and then a couple of applications of by parts.

cookiemonster
 
thanks, got it now
 
Ok a new integral I can’t figure out how to take

\int \frac{1}{4y^{2} - 4y - 3} dy

Any suggestions?
 
Partial fractions.

cookiemonster
 
Oops I posted the wrong integral, I meant:
\int \frac{1}{(4y^{2} - 4y - 3)^{1/2}} dy
 
JonF said:
Oops I posted the wrong integral, I meant:
\int \frac{1}{(4y^{2} - 4y - 3)^{1/2}} dy
Try completing the square and using a substitution of what you get inside the ()^2 bit. It should then be a simple matter of knocking it into standard form.
 
Try making a change till you get the folowing formula
\int \frac{1}{((Y-A)^2+B^2)^{1/2}} dY
Sorry I forgot the formula of how to go on, you can check it out in your textbooks.
 
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This might help (a standard form)

\int \frac{1}{(x^2 + a^2)^{\frac{1}{2}}} dx = \ln \left(x + \sqrt{x^2 + a^2} \right)

Though it would appear to me you are on the wrong track. Have checked your integral out at http://integrals.wolfram.com (you need to check their syntax on how to input function it's a little temperamental)
 
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My suggestion is complete the square on the denominator. Than it should be a matter of using a trig substitution. Looks to me like it will be a secant substitution.
 

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