How Do You Modify the Stoichiometry for Sulfur-Included Food Waste Degradation?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around modifying the stoichiometry of food waste degradation to include sulfur in the chemical equation for methane production. The focus is on the theoretical formulation of the reaction, particularly how the presence of sulfur affects the overall stoichiometry and the resulting products.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a general formula for food waste degradation to methane, excluding sulfur, and seeks to modify it to include sulfur.
  • Another participant expresses skepticism about the overall equation's coherence, suggesting it appears arbitrary.
  • A different participant argues that the products would indeed change due to the use of hydrogen to form H2S instead of contributing to methane production.
  • One participant proposes a method of using an atom balance on hydrogen, carbon, and oxygen to derive coefficients for the reaction products, suggesting a systematic approach to solving the stoichiometry.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on how the inclusion of sulfur affects the stoichiometry of the reaction, with some agreeing that the products will change while others question the clarity of the original equation. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the exact modifications needed for the stoichiometric coefficients.

Contextual Notes

Participants do not reach a consensus on the specific changes to the stoichiometry or the implications of including sulfur in the reaction. There are also indications of potential assumptions that may not be explicitly stated, such as the nature of the food waste and the conditions of the degradation process.

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Homework Statement


There's no problem statement, I'm doing this as part of my project

For degradation of food wastes to methane, the general formula is given for food waste (without sulfur)

##C_{n}H_{a}O_{b}N_{c} + (n - \frac {a}{4} - \frac {b}{2} + \frac {3c}{4})H_{2}O \rightarrow (\frac {n}{2} + \frac {a}{8} - \frac {b}{4} - \frac {3c}{8})CH_{4} + (\frac {n}{2} - \frac {a}{8} + \frac {b}{4} + \frac {3c}{8})CO_{2} + cNH_{3}##

However, for my purpose I need to include sulfur, so my formula should be
##C_{n}H_{a}O_{b}N_{c}S_{d}##

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The Attempt at a Solution


This part with the N and S are easy, but figuring out the other stuff is of course my issue.
##C_{n}H_{a}O_{b}N_{c}S_{d} + (...)H_{2}O \rightarrow (...) CH_{4} + (...)CO_{2} + cNH_{3} + dH_{2}S##
 
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CH4 and CO2 don't change.

Can't say whole equation makes much sense to me, it looks rather arbitrary.
 
I imagine they would change, since you are using hydrogen to make H2S instead of going into CH4, right? This is a pseudo reaction of course, I'm trying to model solid wastes to methane from anaerobic digestion without having to model all the many reactions involved in a real digestion
 
OK, you are right, they are not independent.
 
What you do is call x the coefficient of H2O, y the coefficient of CH4, and z the coefficient of CO2. Then you do an atom balance on H, C, and O. This gives you three linear algebraic equations in the three unknowns x, y, and z. Just solve for these unknowns.

Chet
 
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Chestermiller said:
What you do is call x the coefficient of H2O, y the coefficient of CH4, and z the coefficient of CO2. Then you do an atom balance on H, C, and O. This gives you three linear algebraic equations in the three unknowns x, y, and z. Just solve for these unknowns.

Chet
Thanks, now time to crank out the algebra
 

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