How Do You Prove Limits at Infinity?

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The discussion revolves around proving limits at infinity using the formal definition of limits. Participants are examining two specific limits: one as \( x \) approaches infinity and the other as \( x \) approaches -1. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and technical explanations related to limit proofs.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant requests assistance in proving two limits using the definition of limit.
  • Another participant outlines the steps to prove that \( \lim_{x\to\infty}\frac{x-1}{x+2} = 1 \) by suggesting to simplify the expression and find an appropriate \( N \) for a given \( \varepsilon \).
  • For the limit \( \lim_{x\to-1}\frac{-1}{(x+1)^2} = -\infty \), a participant explains that one must demonstrate that for any \( M \), a \( \delta \) can be found such that the limit condition holds.
  • A participant questions the correctness of another's approach, indicating that the limit is as \( x \to \infty \) and emphasizing the need to ensure the inequality holds for all \( x \) greater than \( N \).
  • Further clarification is provided on rewriting the inequality to find a suitable \( N \) that satisfies the limit condition.

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Participants do not reach a consensus, as there are differing interpretations and approaches to proving the limits. Some participants provide corrections and refinements to earlier claims without establishing a definitive agreement.

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There are limitations in the discussion regarding the assumptions made in the proofs and the specific definitions of the limits being used. The discussion does not resolve all mathematical steps or clarify all dependencies.

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Hi, can anybody help me with this two limits? I have to prove them by the definition of limit. Thank you in advance.
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goody said:
Hi, can anybody help me with this two limits? I have to prove them by the definition of limit. Thank you in advance.
Hi Goody, and welcome to MHB!

To prove that $$\lim_{x\to\infty}\frac{x-1}{x+2} = 1$$, you have to show that, given $\varepsilon > 0$, you can find $N$ such that $$\left|\frac{x-1}{x+2} - 1\right| < \varepsilon$$ whenever $x>N$.

So, first you should simplify $$\left|\frac{x-1}{x+2} - 1\right|$$. Then you should see how large $x$ has to be in order to make that expression less than $\varepsilon$.

To prove that $$\lim_{x\to-1}\frac{-1}{(x+1)^2} = -\infty$$, you have to show that, given $M$, you can find $\delta>0$ such that $$\frac{-1}{(x+1)^2} < -M$$ whenever $|x+1| < \delta$. That is actually an easier calculation than the first one, so you might want to try that one first.
 

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goody said:
Hi Opalg! Do you think I got it correct?
Not quite, although you started correctly. The limit in this case is as $x\to\infty$, so you want to see what happens when $x$ gets large. This means that the inequality $\dfrac3{|x+2|}<\varepsilon$ has to hold for all $x$ greater than $N$ (where you think of $N$ as being a large number).

Write the inequality as $|x+2| > \dfrac3\varepsilon$, and you see that this will be true if $x > \dfrac3\varepsilon -2$. So you can take $N = \dfrac3\varepsilon -2$. More simply, you could take $N = \dfrac3\varepsilon$, which will satisfy the required condition with a bit to spare.
 

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