How Do You Solve a Calculus Free Response Question on Taylor Series?

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The discussion revolves around a calculus problem involving the Taylor series of a function defined by its derivatives at a specific point. Participants are tasked with writing the first four terms and the general term of the Taylor series about x=2, as well as finding the radius of convergence for the series.

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  • Participants explore the formulation of the Taylor series and question the correctness of the coefficients derived from the nth derivative. There is discussion about the application of the ratio test for determining the radius of convergence, with some expressing uncertainty about their calculations.

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Several participants have identified issues with the initial attempts at deriving the Taylor series coefficients, particularly regarding the factorial terms. There is ongoing exploration of the ratio test and its implications for convergence, with some guidance provided on correcting the series formulation.

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Participants are working under the constraints of homework rules that require them to derive solutions without direct answers being provided. There is a focus on understanding the derivation process and ensuring the correct application of mathematical principles.

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Homework Statement


The function f has a Taylor series about x=2 that converges tp f(x) for all x in the interval of convergence. The nth derivative of f at x=2 is given by f^(n)(2)=((n+1)!)/3^n for n>=1, and f(2) =1.
(a). write the first four terms and the general term of the Taylor series for f about x=2.
(b). find the radius of convergence for the Taylor series for f about x=2.


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The Attempt at a Solution


(a). F(x) = 1 + (2/3)(x-2) + (2/3)(x-2)^2 + (8/9)(x-2)^3 +...+ ((n+1)!(x-2)^n)/(3^n)
This seems correct, however I am not sure, because when I atempt part b it doesn't really work.
(b) Standard Ratio Test for the general term in part a = abs((n+2)(x-2))/3 <1
Does this not mean its divergent then? or am i all mixed up? Thanks for any help.
 
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Homework Statement


The function f has a Taylor series about x=2 that converges tp f(x) for all x in the interval of convergence. The nth derivative of f at x=2 is given by f^(n)(2)=((n+1)!)/3^n for n>=1, and f(2) =1.
(a). write the first four terms and the general term of the Taylor series for f about x=2.
(b). find the radius of convergence for the Taylor series for f about x=2.


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


(a). F(x) = 1 + (2/3)(x-2) + (2/3)(x-2)^2 + (8/9)(x-2)^3 +...+ ((n+1)!(x-2)^n)/(3^n)
This seems correct, however I am not sure, because when I atempt part b it doesn't really work.
This is completely wrong but since you don't say how you got those coefficients, I don't what you did wrong. Did you forget the n! in the denominator of the formula for the coefficients?

(b) Standard Ratio Test for the general term in part a = abs((n+2)(x-2))/3 <1
Does this not mean its divergent then? or am i all mixed up? Thanks for any help.
 
yes, i did forget to use n! in the denominator.
New Equation(for part a): f(x) = 1 + (2(x-2))/3*1!) + (6(x-2)^2)/(9*2!) + (24(x-2)^3)/(27*3!)+...+ ((x-2)^n)/((3^n)*(n!))
I got this by using the given nth derivative formula f^n(2)= (n+1)!/3^n for the f1 f2 f3 derivative parts of the formula for series (f(2) + f1(x-2) + (f2(2)(x-2)^2)/2! + (f3(2)(x-2)^3)/3! +...
I still do not think its correct however because for part b:
I use the ration test lim(x>0)|((x+2)^(n+1)/(3^(n+1) *(n+1)!)) * ((3^n(n!))/(x-2)^n)| = lim(x>0) |(x-2)/3(n+1)|
From here i don't know what to do because if i made it less than 1, wouldn't it mean that the series always converges? Is my general term off? Thanks again
 
You have the correct derivatives in
F(x) = 1 + (2/3)(x-2) + (2/3)(x-2)^2 + (8/9)(x-2)^3 +...+ ((n+1)!(x-2)^n)/(3^n)k
but did not divide by n! Since (n+1)!/n!= n+ 1, the correct series is
F(x) = 1 + (2/3)(x-2) + (1/3)(x-2)^2 + (4/27)(x-2)^3 +...+ ((n+1)(x-2)^n)/(3^n)
Somehow, you have put the "n+1" in the denonimator, not the numerator.

Now, use the ratio test: take the limit of [(n+1)/n]|x-2|/3 as n goes to infinity.
 

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