How to Evaluate the 8th Derivative of a Taylor Series at x=4

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The discussion revolves around evaluating the 8th derivative of a Taylor series at the point x=4, specifically for the function defined by the series: f(x) = ∑ (-1)^n (√n / n!) (x-4)^n. Participants are exploring the implications of the Taylor series and the behavior of its derivatives at the specified point.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the evaluation of the series at x=4, questioning the impact of the terms in the series on the derivatives. There is an exploration of the derivative process and the significance of the base value of n in the context of the 8th derivative.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered guidance on how to approach the differentiation of the series, suggesting the need to derive a general expression for the 8th derivative before evaluating it at x=4. There is an ongoing examination of the notation and the implications of the series terms.

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Participants are considering the constraints of the problem, including the behavior of the series terms for different values of n in relation to the 8th derivative. The original poster's assumptions about the series terms being zero at x=4 are being questioned and discussed.

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Homework Statement


Given: ## f(x) = \sum_{n=0}^\infty (-1)^n \frac {\sqrt n} {n!} (x-4)^n##
Evaluate: ##f^{(8)}(4)##

Homework Equations


The Taylor Series Equation

The Attempt at a Solution


Since the question asks to evaluate at ##x=4##, I figured that all terms in the series except for the initial constant term ##f(a)## would be equal to 0, hence all I have to do is to evaluate ##f(a)##. If I were to extract ##f(x)## from the function, all I get is ##(-1)^n \sqrt n## and I'm unsure how to evaluate it from there
 
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szheng1030 said:
all terms in the series except for the initial constant term f(a)f(a)f(a) would be equal to 0
Of f(8)(a), yes, but not of f(a).
Do you understand the notation?
 
Notice that it asks you to find the value of eighth derivative at ##x=4##. So you should take the derivative of that series expression ,8 times. To give you the hunch of how it goes, the first derivative is ##f'(x)=\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}(-1)^n\frac{\sqrt{n}}{(n-1)!}(x-4)^{n-1}##.

So first find the general expression for ##f^{(8)}(x)## and then evaluate it at ##x=4##. Give caution for what the base value of ##n## would be, as you see for the first derivative the base value of ##n## has become ##n=1##.
 
szheng1030 said:

Homework Statement


Given: ## f(x) = \sum_{n=0}^\infty (-1)^n \frac {\sqrt n} {n!} (x-4)^n##
Evaluate: ##f^{(8)}(4)##

Homework Equations


The Taylor Series Equation

The Attempt at a Solution


Since the question asks to evaluate at ##x=4##, I figured that all terms in the series except for the initial constant term ##f(a)## would be equal to 0, hence all I have to do is to evaluate ##f(a)##. If I were to extract ##f(x)## from the function, all I get is ##(-1)^n \sqrt n## and I'm unsure how to evaluate it from there

What is ##(\frac d {dx})^8 (x-4)^n## for ##n < 8,## ##n=8## and ##n > 8##? That will tell you what ##f^{(8)}(x)## looks like.
 
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I see now what you mean at the OP, if we directly compare the given series, to the Taylor expansion of the function around point x=4, we can immediately conclude the formula for ##f^{(n)}(4)##.
 
szheng1030 said:

Homework Statement


Given: ## f(x) = \sum_{n=0}^\infty (-1)^n \frac {\sqrt n} {n!} (x-4)^n##
Evaluate: ##f^{(8)}(4)##

Homework Equations


The Taylor Series Equation

The Attempt at a Solution


Since the question asks to evaluate at ##x=4##, I figured that all terms in the series except for the initial constant term ##f(a)## would be equal to 0, hence all I have to do is to evaluate ##f(a)##. If I were to extract ##f(x)## from the function, all I get is ##(-1)^n \sqrt n## and I'm unsure how to evaluate it from there

The definition of a Taylor series is
$$f(x) = \sum_{n=0}^\infty \frac{f^{(n)}(a)}{n!} (x-a)^n$$
where
$$f^{(n)}(a) \equiv \left. \frac{d^n f(x)}{dx^n} \right|_{x=a}$$
 

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