How Do You Solve Complex Inequalities Involving Absolute Values and Ratios?

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The discussion revolves around solving complex inequalities involving absolute values and rational expressions, specifically the inequality |(x^2+3x+1)/(x+1)| < 7, given the condition |x-2| < 2. Participants are exploring the implications of these inequalities and the necessary steps to approach the problem.

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  • Participants discuss the initial steps of solving the inequality, including determining the range of x values from the absolute value condition and the implications of restrictions on the denominator. There are attempts to solve for specific x-values that satisfy the equation derived from the inequality.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants sharing their calculations and questioning their reasoning. Some guidance has been offered regarding the roots of the quadratic equation, and there is an exploration of the behavior of the function within certain intervals. However, there is no explicit consensus on the next steps or final conclusions.

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Participants note the importance of restrictions on x to avoid division by zero and the need to evaluate the sign of the expression across different intervals. There is also mention of a table to assess the positivity or negativity of the expression, indicating a method of analysis being considered.

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ok so i missed a few classes and i have a test coming up soo and i need some help understanding inequalities.

the example I am trying to do is:

If |x-2|< 2, show that |(x^2+3x+1)/(x+1)| < 7

form what i could understand from a textbook was something like:

-2<x-2<2
0 < x < 4

and from there on i do a restriction for the x+1 so it can't be divided by 0 right and after that i just kinda get lost... i think i have to find when the top one becomes 0 too but its not exact and i would have to use -b+-sqrt() equation thing soo any help on this one really helps
 
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Try first to find:

1. The x-values solving:
[tex]\frac{x^{2}+3x+1}{x+1}=7[/tex]

and thereafter,
2. The x-values solving:
[tex]\frac{x^{2}+3x+1}{x+1}=-7[/tex]
 
so if that is that and i have a restriction on the lower value i can multiply without reversing the sign right?? soo
x^2 + 3x + 1 = 7(x+1)
X^2 - 4x -6 = 0

and then use -b formula thing
a = 1, b = -4, c = -6

(4+-sqrt(4^2 - 4(1)(-6)))/2
(4+- sqrt (40))/2
? for some reason it sound like I am doing something wrong
 
Why should you be wrong?

Let's see what we get out of this!

Your two roots are
[tex]2\pm\sqrt{10}[/tex]

Note that your interval [0,4] from your first equality lies strictly between these two numbers.

Furthermore, for any particular non-negative number, say 0 you choose between your two roots, the fraction is LESS than 7.
Thus, for ALL such numbers lying between your two roots, the fraction must be less than 7, since the fraction is continuous in x.

But that means, in particular, that if x lies in [0,4], then the fraction is less than 7, which was to be proven.
 
wait ... where did that

[tex]2\pm\sqrt{10}[/tex]

edit: i found i see where you got it but still... I am lost..
the original range for x was ]0,4[...
and one more thing I am seeing here that there is a table in which you put this values to see if they are positive or negative once evaluated... so maybe i could use that?
 
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