How Do You Solve Harper's Equation in Quantum Mechanics?

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The discussion centers around solving Harper's equation in the context of quantum mechanics, specifically for a single particle in a 2D square lattice subjected to an Abelian magnetic field. Participants explore various methods for solving the equation and generating the Hofstadter butterfly, including numerical approaches and matrix formulations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents Harper's equation and expresses familiarity with matrix multiplication solutions and the trace of Wilson loops, but seeks alternative methods for solving the equation and generating the Hofstadter butterfly.
  • Another participant suggests a numerical approach, recommending a paper that discusses matrix expansion of the Harper equation and emphasizes the need to write the equation in matrix form for numerical diagonalization.
  • There is a repeated emphasis on the necessity of looping over parameter values and using tools like MATLAB or Python for numerical calculations.
  • A participant requests numerical calculation code, indicating a desire for practical implementation of the discussed methods.
  • Some participants note the age of the thread and the inactivity of previous contributors, suggesting that responses may be limited.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on a specific method for solving Harper's equation, and multiple approaches are discussed without resolution. The discussion remains open-ended regarding the best strategies for numerical solutions.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the assumptions needed for specific values of E and α, and whether an assumption about g(0) is necessary. There is also a lack of clarity on the specific implementation details for numerical solutions.

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For a single particle in a 2D square lattice in the presence of an Abelian magnetic field Schroedinger's equation transforms into Harper's equation

[tex]g(m+1) + g(m-1) = [E - 2 cos(2\pi m \alpha- \nu)]g(m)[/tex]
where
[tex]\psi(x,y)=\psi(ma,na) = e^{i\nu n} g(m) \\ \alpha= \frac{e a^2 B}{h c}[/tex]

I am familiar with a solution that involves matrix multiplication and the condition about the trace of wilson loop.
I can also plot Hofstatder butterfly by constructing hamiltonian matrix in some gauge (e.g Landau) and diagonalizing it.

What I don't know is how to solve Harper equation in a different way or how to get butterfly by simply finding points [itex](E, \alpha)[/itex]. Solving this kind of equations is new to me. I don't know what to do if I put some particular values of E and [itex]\alpha[/itex] into equation. Do I need to assume how g(0) looks like? Any help?
 
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Are you asking how to numerically solve this? Here is a nice paper going over matrix expansion of the Harper equation:
https://arxiv.org/pdf/cond-mat/9808328.pdf
But to numerically solve you need to write the equation in matrix form and loop over possible parameter values. You should just take the raw Hofstandter Hamiltonian, expand it in matrix form, and diagonalize it numerically (MATLAB and Python are good tools for this).
Code:
for k = -pi:pi
       H = %some cell with k plugged in
       E(k,:) = eig(H)
end
 
DeathbyGreen said:
Are you asking how to numerically solve this? Here is a nice paper going over matrix expansion of the Harper equation:
https://arxiv.org/pdf/cond-mat/9808328.pdf
But to numerically solve you need to write the equation in matrix form and loop over possible parameter values. You should just take the raw Hofstandter Hamiltonian, expand it in matrix form, and diagonalize it numerically (MATLAB and Python are good tools for this).
Code:
for k = -pi:pi
       H = %some cell with k plugged in
       E(k,:) = eig(H)
end
tobix10 said:
For a single particle in a 2D square lattice in the presence of an Abelian magnetic field Schroedinger's equation transforms into Harper's equation

[tex]g(m+1) + g(m-1) = [E - 2 cos(2\pi m \alpha- \nu)]g(m)[/tex]
where
[tex]\psi(x,y)=\psi(ma,na) = e^{i\nu n} g(m) \\ \alpha= \frac{e a^2 B}{h c}[/tex]

I am familiar with a solution that involves matrix multiplication and the condition about the trace of wilson loop.
I can also plot Hofstatder butterfly by constructing hamiltonian matrix in some gauge (e.g Landau) and diagonalizing it.

What I don't know is how to solve Harper equation in a different way or how to get butterfly by simply finding points [itex](E, \alpha)[/itex]. Solving this kind of equations is new to me. I don't know what to do if I put some particular values of E and [itex]\alpha[/itex] into equation. Do I need to assume how g(0) looks like? Any help?
please if you found the numerical calculation code you can give me .
 
Saidi said:
please if you found the numerical calculation code you can give me .
Welcome to PF.

This thread is old enough that the participants are no longer with us. Your best bet is to follow the hints and link in Post #2. :smile:
 
berkeman said:
This thread is old enough that the participants are no longer with us.
I can see (by clicking on their usernames, then on the numbers shown under "Messages") that tobix10 has not posted here since 2017, and DeathbyGreen has not posted since 2018.
 

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