How Do You Solve the Limit of (x+1)^(cotx) as x Approaches 0+?

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The discussion revolves around finding the limit of the expression (x+1)^(cotx) as x approaches 0 from the positive side. This involves concepts from calculus, particularly limits and indeterminate forms.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the transformation of the limit into a logarithmic form, questioning the correctness of their initial steps. There is discussion about applying l'Hôpital's rule and the interpretation of indeterminate forms like 1^∞.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on manipulating the expression to facilitate the limit evaluation, while others are still questioning their reasoning and the steps taken. Multiple interpretations of the limit's behavior are being explored.

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There are mentions of potential errors in applying calculus rules, such as the chain rule, and the importance of maintaining the limit notation throughout the discussion. The participants are also considering the implications of using different mathematical notations.

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Homework Statement


find the limit.


Homework Equations


[itex]limit_{x->0+}[/itex] [itex](x+1)^{cotx}[/itex]




The Attempt at a Solution



this is of the form [itex]1^{∞}[/itex]

y = [itex](x+1)^{cotx}[/itex]
lny = cotx * ln(x+1)

not sure if this is correct so far.. and what to do next? somehow turn it into a fraction, perhaps?
 
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whatlifeforme said:

Homework Statement


find the limit.

Homework Equations


limit x->0+ [itex](x+1)^{cotx}[/itex]

The Attempt at a Solution



this is of the form [itex]1^{∞}[/itex]

y = [itex](x+1)^{cotx}[/itex]
lny = cotx * ln(x+1)

not sure if this is correct so far.. and what to do next? somehow turn it into a fraction, perhaps?

Yes, it's fine so far. And sure, turn it into a fraction so you can apply l'Hopital. If you have a*b you can turn it into a fraction by writing it as either a/(1/b) or b/(1/a). Which looks easier?
 
Dick said:
Yes, it's fine so far. And sure, turn it into a fraction so you can apply l'Hopital. If you have a*b you can turn it into a fraction by writing it as either a/(1/b) or b/(1/a). Which looks easier?


[itex]\frac{cotx}{\frac{1}{ln(x+1)}}[/itex] = [itex]\frac{(1/0)}{(1/0)}[/itex]

[itex]\frac{-(cscx)^{2}}{\frac{1}{1/(x+1)}}[/itex] = [itex]\frac{1/0}{(1/(1/1)}[/itex]

or written in another form as:

[itex]\frac{-(cscx)^{2}}{\frac{1}{1/(x+1)}}[/itex] = [itex]\frac{\frac{1}{0}}{\frac{1}{\frac{1}{1}}}[/itex]



is that ∞/1 ??

am i correct so far. do i need to apply l'hospital's again, or is my answer correctly ∞.
 
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whatlifeforme said:
[itex]\frac{cotx}{\frac{1}{ln(x+1)}}[/itex] = [itex]\frac{(1/0)}{(1/0)}[/itex]

[itex]\frac{-(cscx)^{2}}{\frac{1}{1/(x+1)}}[/itex] = [itex]\frac{1/0}{(1/(1/1)}[/itex]

or written in another form as:

[itex]\frac{-(cscx)^{2}}{\frac{1}{1/(x+1)}}[/itex] = [itex]\frac{\frac{1}{0}}{\frac{1}{\frac{1}{1}}}[/itex]
is that ∞/1 ??

am i correct so far. do i need to apply l'hospital's again, or is my answer correctly ∞.

make that -∞.
 
whatlifeforme said:
make that -∞.

You picked the hard way to do it and then you did it wrong. Try ln(x+1)/(1/cot(x))=ln(x+1)/tan(x). That's the easy way. Work it out that way, then look back and figure out what you did wrong.
 
Edit: You forgot to use the chain rule in your second step. I'd just do it over put tan(x) in the denominator.

Also, keep the limit in there. 1/0 isn't defined.
 
[tex]\lim_{x->0+}\frac{ln(x+1)}{tanx} = \frac{0}{0}[/tex]

[tex]\lim_{x->0+}\frac{\frac{1}{x+1}}{(secx)^{2}} = \frac{1}{1}[/tex]
 
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whatlifeforme said:
[tex]\lim_{x->0+}\frac{ln(x+1)}{tanx} = \frac{0}{0}[/tex]

[tex]\lim_{x->0+}\frac{\frac{1}{x+1}}{(secx)^{2}} = \frac{1}{1}[/tex]

Hence? Conclusion for the original limit?
 
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whatlifeforme said:
[tex]\lim_{x->0+}\frac{ln(x+1)}{tanx} = \frac{0}{0}[/tex]

[tex]\lim_{x->0+}\frac{\frac{1}{x+1}}{(secx)^{2}} = \frac{1}{1}[/tex]
Mod note: I made the changes suggested below.[/color]
Instead of writing limit_{x->\infty}, you should write "\lim_{x\to\infty}"

Also, if you write "tex" instead of "itex", everything will look better. Only use "itex" for when you aren't starting a new line for math.

Going back to the beginning of the problem, you wrote that ln(y) was equal to the expression you just derived. So what is y?
 
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piercebeatz said:
Instead of writing limit_{x->\infty}, you should write "\lim_{x\to\infty}"

Also, if you write "tex" instead of "itex", everything will look better. Only use "itex" for when you aren't starting a new line for math.

Going back to the beginning of the problem, you wrote that ln(y) was equal to the expression you just derived. So what is y?


y = [itex](x+1)^{cotx}[/itex]
lny = cotx * ln(x+1)


[itex]\lim_{x\to0+} (x+1)^{cotx}= \lim_{x\to0+} f(x) = \lim_{x\to0+} e^{lny}[/itex]

[itex]= e^{1}[/itex]
 
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whatlifeforme said:
y = [itex](x+1)^{cotx}[/itex]
lny = cotx * ln(x+1)


[itex]\lim_{x\to0+} (x+1)^{cotx}= \lim_{x\to0+} f(x) = \lim_{x\to0+} e^{lny}[/itex]

[itex]= e^{1}[/itex]

Right.
 
  • #12
whatlifeforme said:
y = [itex](x+1)^{cotx}[/itex]
lny = cotx * ln(x+1)


[itex]\lim_{x\to0+} (x+1)^{cotx}= \lim_{x\to0+} f(x) = \lim_{x\to0+} e^{lny}[/itex]

[itex]= e^{1}[/itex]

Looks good. Instead of writing "itex", though, it'll look better with "tex"
 
  • #13
piercebeatz said:
Looks good. Instead of writing "itex", though, it'll look better with "tex"

You could also just use "##" at the beginning and end of whatever you want to type in latex.
 
  • #14
SithsNGiggles said:
You could also just use "##" at the beginning and end of whatever you want to type in latex.

I would add to the OP that you don't need to have flocks of itex or tex tags - one at the beginning and the closing tag of that type at the end of the line.

## at beginning and end - same as itex at beginning and /itex at end.
$$ at beginning and end - same as tex at beginning and /tex at end.
 
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whatlifeforme said:
y = [tex](x+1)^{cotx}[/tex]
lny = cotx * ln(x+1)[tex]\lim_{x\to0+} (x+1)^{cotx}= \lim_{x\to0+} f(x) = \lim_{x\to0+} e^{lny}[/tex]

[tex]= e^{1}[/tex]
**note:updated with tex.
 
  • #16
whatlifeforme said:
**note:updated with tex.

Good. Also, if you want the + to be a subscript, just use ^, as follows:

[tex]\lim_{x \to 0^+ }[/tex]
 

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