How Do You Use Lagrange Multipliers to Maximize Box Volume in an Ellipsoid?

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The problem involves using Lagrange multipliers to maximize the volume of a box inscribed in the ellipsoid defined by the equation 6x² + y² + 3z² = 2. The original poster outlines the setup and equations related to the volume and constraint.

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  • Participants discuss the relationships between the dimensions of the box and the constraint, with attempts to express variables in terms of a common parameter. Questions arise regarding the substitution of variables and how to effectively utilize the constraint equation.

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There is ongoing exploration of the relationships between the variables, with some participants offering clarifications on the substitution method. The original poster expresses confusion but also acknowledges progress in understanding the approach being discussed.

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Participants note the need to solve a system of equations derived from the relationships established, and there is an emphasis on ensuring all variable signs are considered in the final steps.

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1. Problem Statement:

Use Lagrange multipliers to find the volume of the largest box with faces parallel to the coordinate system that can be inscribed in the ellipsoid: 6x2 + y2 + 3z2 = 2

2. Homework Equations :

f(x,y,z) = [tex]\lambda[/tex]g(x,y,z)

3. Attempt at a solution

f(x,y,z) is the box of dimensions xyz
g(x,y,x) is the constraint: 6x2 + y2 + 3z2 = 2

Therefore:

fx = yz
fy = xz
fz = xy

gx = 12x
gy = 2y
gz = 6z

<fx, fy, fz> = [tex]\lambda[/tex]<gx, gy, gz> = <[tex]\lambda[/tex]gx, [tex]\lambda[/tex]gy, [tex]\lambda[/tex]gz>

Which gives us these equations:

yz = [tex]\lambda[/tex]12x (1)
xz = [tex]\lambda[/tex]2y (2)
xy = [tex]\lambda[/tex]6z (3)
6x2 + y2 + 3z2 = 2 (4)

Multiplying Eq 1 by x, Eq 2 by y and Eq 3 by z we get:

xyz = x[tex]\lambda[/tex]12x or [tex]\lambda[/tex]12x2
xyz = y[tex]\lambda[/tex]2y or [tex]\lambda[/tex]2y2
xyz = z[tex]\lambda[/tex]6z or [tex]\lambda[/tex]6z2

Now because [tex]\lambda[/tex] [tex]\neq[/tex] 0 (this would give the sides of the boxes as xz=yz=xy=0) we can divide [tex]\lambda[/tex] out:

and we have 12x2 = 2y2 = 6z2

This is the point where I am running into trouble. I need to solve the system of equations and I also know that the solution is staring me in the face I just can't seen to be able to figure it out.

Any help is greatly appreciated!
 
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6x2 + y2 + 3z2 = 2 (4)
and we have 12x2 = 2y2 = 6z2
which means that 6x2 = y2 = 3z2 = t, say

Substitute into (4) to find t.
 
Well explained, AlphaZero.

But, because that last part depended on that very nice form for the constraint, you could have done this:
[tex]12x^2= 2y^2= 6z^2[/tex]
dividing through by 2 gives, as AlphaZero said
[tex]6x^2= y^2= 3z^2[/tex]
so that [itex]x= \pm y/\sqrt{6}[/itex] and [itex]z= \pm y/\sqrt{3}[/itex]
and you can replace x and z in whatever constraint you have to get a single equation in y.

Here, of course, you just get [itex]y^2+ y^2+ y^2= 3y^2= 2[/itex] and can solve for y. When finding x and z, don't forget the [itex]\pm[/itex]
 
AlephZero said:
which means that 6x2 = y2 = 3z2 = t, say

Substitute into (4) to find t.

Please forgive me but I'm not following what you are saying here. I just don't see how 6x2 = y2 = 3z2 = t fits into the equation for the constraint.
 
He is saying that the common value in the equation 6x= y= 3z can be set equal to t: 6x= y= 3x= t. Now, the constraint equation just happens to be 6x+ y+ 3z= 2. Replacing each of those with t you have t+ t+ t= 3t= 2.
 
HallsofIvy said:
He is saying that the common value in the equation 6x= y= 3z can be set equal to t: 6x= y= 3x= t. Now, the constraint equation just happens to be 6x+ y+ 3z= 2. Replacing each of those with t you have t+ t+ t= 3t= 2.

I can't believe I didn't catch the dividing out the common!

THanks guys I got it now!
 

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