How do you work out the tension and angle of this block in equilibrium?

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a block in equilibrium with a weight of 20N, attached to three strings with various tensions and angles. Participants are discussing how to analyze the forces acting on the block using equilibrium conditions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are attempting to set up equations based on the sum of forces in both horizontal and vertical directions. There are questions regarding the angles involved, particularly the reasoning behind the angle being expressed as 90+a. Some participants suggest visualizing the problem differently to simplify the relationships between the forces.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active with participants sharing their attempts at formulating equations and questioning the correctness of their approaches. Some guidance has been provided on how to simplify the equations and visualize the problem, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct path forward.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the constraints of the problem statement and are exploring the implications of the angles and tensions without complete information on how to proceed from their current equations.

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Homework Statement


A block that has a weight of 20N, is in equilibrium. It is attached to 3 strings, A, B and C. String A has a tension of 15N to the right of the block. Between String A and B is the angle (a) and between B and C is 90degrees. The tension in String B and C is the same. Calculate the tension and the angle (a).


Homework Equations



sum of the forces=0


The Attempt at a Solution



For the horizontal forces I got:
15+Tcos(a)=Tcos(90+a)

And then for the vertical:
20=Tsin(a)+Tsin(90+a)

But I don't know how to figure it out from there, or whether they are even right. Any help at all would be greatly apprecaited!
 
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cos(90+a) = sin(a)
sin (90+a) = -cos(a)

But, why the angle is 90+a?
 
rootX said:
cos(90+a) = sin(a)
sin (90+a) = -cos(a)

But, why the angle is 90+a?

The angle of String C is 90degrees plus (a) away from the 15N to the right. I've attached a diagram of the situation, sorry I aren't very good at expalining. Am I totally wrong with the angles??

Thanks by the way!
 

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It is easier to visualize if you use 90-a (triangle left to the force vector C).

I would recommend to divide both equations and eliminate T. Then you will get Acos (a) = B sin(a) relationship..which is easier to solve
 
So my two equations are:

15+Bcos(a)=Ccos(90-a)
20=Bsin(a)+Csin(90-a)

Which because the tension is the same in both means the A and C can be replaced by T:

15+Tcos(a)=Tcos(90-a)
20=Tsin(a)+Tsin(90-a)

From this do I rearrange to get Tcos(a) and Tsin(a) as the subjects? And if they are divided they equal tan(a), or is this wrong?
 
I would next simplify the cos(90-a) and sin(90-a). You can use the trig formulas for sin(x-y) and cos(x-y) to do this.
 
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