How does a band pass filter increase the time of arrival of photons?

Click For Summary
SUMMARY

The discussion centers on the effects of a band pass filter on the time of arrival of photons from a laser pulse. It establishes that while a diffraction grating can separate spectral components and define photon energy, a band pass filter induces a "nonlocal collapse" of the initial superposition of states, resulting in a defined energy but random arrival times. This phenomenon highlights the counterintuitive nature of quantum mechanics, particularly in relation to the uncertainty principle and the implications of Fourier Transform. The conversation also touches on various interpretations of quantum mechanics, including Copenhagen and Bohm interpretations.

PREREQUISITES
  • Quantum mechanics fundamentals
  • Understanding of the uncertainty principle
  • Fourier Transform concepts
  • Knowledge of photon behavior and wave-particle duality
NEXT STEPS
  • Study the implications of the uncertainty principle in quantum mechanics
  • Explore the concept of nonlocality in quantum physics
  • Learn about the different interpretations of quantum mechanics, focusing on the Copenhagen and Bohm interpretations
  • Investigate the role of band pass filters in optical systems and their effects on photon behavior
USEFUL FOR

Physicists, quantum mechanics students, optical engineers, and anyone interested in the behavior of photons and the implications of quantum measurement techniques.

Daniel Petka
Messages
147
Reaction score
16
TL;DR
If a very short (laser) pulse attenuated to single photon intensity passes through a narrow band pass filter, do the photons get detected at random times?
Here is my thought experiment: Let's say I attenuate a very short laser pulse to single photon intensity. Due to the uncertainty principle, I know the time of arrival of the photons, but not their energy. So let's reverse that by splitting the pulse in its spectral components with a diffraction grating and passing the spectrum through a slit. The photons that pass through the slit will have a defined energy, but not a defined time of arrival, because each new photon arrives on a random spot and so it's also random if it passes through the slit. This seems logical (kind of). But now let's pass the pulse directly through a narrow band pass filter instead. The photons should still appear randomly. Is that true? If yes, it's extremely counter intuitive. It's as if the band pass filter can delay a photon randomly. How does this happen, what's going on here physically? It has to be true because, well, Fourier Transform, but I don't get why.
 
Physics news on Phys.org
The filter can the thought of as a "measuring apparatus", which induces a "collapse" of initial superposition (of states with different energies) into a state with well defined energy. The collapse is "nonlocal", in the sense that it does not respect the principle that wave cannot "change" faster than light. As always, the exact physical meaning of "nonlocal collapse" depends on the choice of interpretation (Copenhagen, Bohm, many worlds, ...).
 
Demystifier said:
The filter can the thought of as a "measuring apparatus", which induces a "collapse" of initial superposition (of states with different energies) into a state with well defined energy. The collapse is "nonlocal", in the sense that it does not respect the principle that wave cannot "change" faster than light. As always, the exact physical meaning of "nonlocal collapse" depends on the choice of interpretation (Copenhagen, Bohm, many worlds, ...).
Thank you for the reply! This is probably one of those cases where intuition fails
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: Demystifier

Similar threads

  • · Replies 25 ·
Replies
25
Views
2K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
2K
  • · Replies 32 ·
2
Replies
32
Views
2K
  • · Replies 11 ·
Replies
11
Views
2K
  • · Replies 0 ·
Replies
0
Views
1K
  • · Replies 36 ·
2
Replies
36
Views
8K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
3K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
1K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
2K