Probability of a photon passing through a filter

In summary, quantum physics states that the probability of a photon passing through a filter depends on the angle between the photon and the filter polarization axis. In the case where the angle is 45°, the probability is 50%. If a single photon is tested, there is a 50% chance it will pass through the filter. However, if the photon does not pass through the filter, it cannot be retested as it is absorbed. In other experiments, such as the Stern-Gerlach experiment, particles can be retested and will always have the same result. The best way to understand this concept is through the mathematical calculations of the Born rule or through layman-friendly explanations such as in Giancarlo Ghirardi's book
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In quantum physics they say that the probability P for a photon to pass through the filter depends on the angle Φ between the photon and the filter polarization axis:

P = cos^2(Φ)

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And if I'm not wrong, when the photon passes through that filter (like illustrated in the image above) the photon will change its polarization axis.

In the picture above where the Φ = 45°, then P = 0.5

So if we let one single photon try passing through that filter, then the probability of it passing through the filter is 50% (P = 0.5)

So if we have 1000 photons, then we can say that ca 50% will pass through that filter since the probability is 50%.

But those photons that didn't pass through the filter, if we try them passing the same filter, will they pass through the filter?

I mean let's say that one single photon (where Φ = 45°) didn't pass through the filter (since there's 0.5 chance it doesn't). If we try with the same photon again and again the photon will never pass through that filter since it didn't pass through it first time?
 

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You cannot try with "the same" photon again. It does not exist anymore.
 
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Karagoz said:
I mean let's say that one single photon (where Φ = 45°) didn't pass through the filter (since there's 0.5 chance it doesn't). If we try with the same photon again and again the photon will never pass through that filter since it didn't pass through it first time?
I would think if the photon does not pass through the 1st filter, it is gone and can't be reused.

[Edit: Ah, it appears Orodruin and I posted at the same time.
 
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Those photons that didn't pass through the filter are absorbed by it, so we don't get to try them again.

However, there are analogous experiments (google for "Stern-Gerlach experiment") in which a beam of particles is passed through an inhomogeneous magnetic field and splits into two beams - the spin-up ones and the spin-down ones, with 50% probability for each particle. If you pass the "up" beam through another magnetic field oriented in the same direction, 100% will be deflected up this time (and 100% of the "down" beam will be deflected down).

The best way of understanding all of this is to look at how the math works. If you know some linear algebra, googling for "Born rule" will get you started. If you want a layman-friendly good explanation, try Giancarlo Ghirardi's book "Sneaking a look at God's cards".
 
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Karagoz said:
In quantum physics they say that the probability P for a photon to pass through the filter depends on the angle Φ between the photon and the filter polarization axis:

P = cos^2(Φ)

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And if I'm not wrong, when the photon passes through that filter (like illustrated in the image above) the photon will change its polarization axis.

In the picture above where the Φ = 45°, then P = 0.5

So if we let one single photon try passing through that filter, then the probability of it passing through the filter is 50% (P = 0.5)

So if we have 1000 photons, then we can say that ca 50% will pass through that filter since the probability is 50%.

But those photons that didn't pass through the filter, if we try them passing the same filter, will they pass through the filter?

I mean let's say that one single photon (where Φ = 45°) didn't pass through the filter (since there's 0.5 chance it doesn't). If we try with the same photon again and again the photon will never pass through that filter since it didn't pass through it first time?
If you use a polarizing beam splitter ( which has two output ports) then no photons are absorbed and you can re-test them.
 
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If you use a polarizing beam splitter ( which has two output ports) then no photons are absorbed and you can re-test them.

Just to make this more clear: You can re-test them, but you will always get the same result. If you put the same photon directly on an identical beam splitter again, it will of course again exit via the same exit port.
 
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1. What is the probability of a photon passing through a filter?

The probability of a photon passing through a filter depends on the characteristics of the filter, such as its material, thickness, and design, as well as the properties of the photon, including its energy and polarization. In general, the probability can range from 0 to 100%, with some filters being more efficient at allowing photons to pass through than others.

2. How is the probability of a photon passing through a filter calculated?

The probability of a photon passing through a filter is calculated using the laws of quantum mechanics, specifically the Schrödinger equation. This equation takes into account the properties of the photon and the filter, as well as the probability amplitudes of different outcomes. The resulting probability is a complex number that can be squared to give the actual probability of the photon passing through the filter.

3. What factors affect the probability of a photon passing through a filter?

The probability of a photon passing through a filter is affected by several factors, including the properties of the filter, the properties of the photon, and the angle of incidence of the photon on the filter. Additionally, the wavelength of the photon and the temperature of the filter can also impact the probability. In general, the higher the energy and the more aligned the polarization of the photon is with the filter, the greater the probability of it passing through.

4. Can the probability of a photon passing through a filter be increased?

Yes, the probability of a photon passing through a filter can be increased by using a more efficient filter, adjusting the properties of the photon, or changing the angle of incidence. In some cases, multiple filters can be used in succession to increase the overall probability of the photon passing through.

5. How is the probability of a photon passing through a filter experimentally determined?

The probability of a photon passing through a filter can be experimentally determined by measuring the number of photons that pass through the filter compared to the total number of photons that are incident on the filter. This can be done by using detectors that can measure the intensity of light or by counting individual photons using specialized equipment. The experimental results can then be compared to the theoretical predictions based on the Schrödinger equation to validate the calculations.

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