How Does a Charge Outside a Conducting Cube Affect Its Internal Electric Field?

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The discussion revolves around the effects of an external positive charge on the electric field within a conducting solid cube. The original poster seeks to understand the behavior of electric fields in this context, particularly at the center of the cube.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Exploratory

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the implications of charge induction on the cube's surface and question the assumption that the electric field inside a conductor is always zero. They discuss the principle of superposition and how it applies to the electric fields generated by the external charge and the induced surface charges.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the relationship between the external charge and the induced charges on the cube. Some participants have provided insights into the cancellation of electric fields, while others continue to question the conditions under which the electric field inside the conductor remains zero.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the complexities of electric fields in conductors, particularly in relation to static fields and the effects of external charges. There is a recognition of the need for clarity on the definitions and principles involved, such as the nature of induced charges and their contributions to the overall electric field.

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Homework Statement



A positive charge q is placed in front of a conducting solid cube at a distance d from its centre. Find the electric field at the centre of the cube due to the charges appearing on its surface.


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A positive charge will induce charge -q and +q respectively at the opposite faces of the cube. But since the electric field inside a conductor is zero, the answer should be zero as the cube is a conductor. But its not ! How ?

Please help !

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The electric field due to surface charges cancels the electric field due to the charge q.

ehild
 
ehild said:
The electric field due to surface charges cancels the electric field due to the charge q.

ehild

Ok thanks ! I got the correct answer. However one more question: Is it not the universal case that electric field inside a charged conductor is zero ? Its non zero in this case because somehow field created by electron drift does not nullify the electric field due charge q ?

The answer says net electric field is towards charge q. Why ?
 
The static electric field inside a conductor is zero. Here you apply the principle of superposition: The net field is the sum of contributions of all charges or charge distributions. This way, the field due to the surface charges + the field of q = 0

ehild
 
ehild said:
The static electric field inside a conductor is zero. Here you apply the principle of superposition: The net field is the sum of contributions of all charges or charge distributions. This way, the field due to the surface charges + the field of q = 0

ehild

Ok but I understand this. Concentrating centre of cube, and drawing a Gaussian surface over there, it can be seen that net field is zero as all the charges reside outside that Gaussian surface. Again, how is the direction of electric field towards the charge +q ?
 
The net field is zero. Zero is the difference of two equal and opposite fields.

The method of superposition considers charge distributions in vacuum. There is no conducting cube, only some charge distribution along the planes where the faces of cube were. And apply Coulomb's law. That gives the field of charge q at the point where the centre of cube was. The contribution of the other charges must be the same, with opposite sign.

ehild
 
ehild said:
The net field is zero. Zero is the difference of two equal and opposite fields.

The method of superposition considers charge distributions in vacuum. There is no conducting cube, only some charge distribution along the planes where the faces of cube were. And apply Coulomb's law. That gives the field of charge q at the point where the centre of cube was. The contribution of the other charges must be the same, with opposite sign.

ehild

Ok, so there is the charge q placed near the face of the cube. It induces in the near face, charge -q and in the opposite face, charge q. Now the role of charge q outside is finished. Field due to one face is E and due to other face is -E. Hence net field due to surface charges is zero. How is it a non zero value and that too towards +q charge ?
 
There are field lines originated from the positive surface charges and ending in the negative ones. The field lines are normal to the faces of the cube. The net field of the surface charges at the centre of the cube is towards q.

ehild
 

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ehild said:
There are field lines originated from the positive surface charges and ending in the negative ones. The field lines are normal to the faces of the cube. The net field of the surface charges at the centre of the cube is towards q.

ehild

Ok, so that means that the net field inside the cubical conductor is a non zero value and is directed towards +q charge. It is not coming zero, even by the superposition principle. How ?

And what do you mean by static field ? A field is just the hypothetical lines of electric force.

Thanks...
 
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The electric field is zero inside the conducting cube. The contribution due to the free charge q is not, neither is that due to the induced surface charges. But these two contributions just cancel each other. In the picture, only the field lines due to the induced charges are shown.ehild
 
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ehild said:
The electric field is zero inside the conducting cube. The contribution due to the free charge q is not, neither is that due to the induced surface charges. But these two contributions just cancel each other. In the picture, only the field lines due to the induced charges are shown.


ehild

Ok got it ! Thanks a lot, ehild ! :smile:
 

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