How Does a Cockroach Affect Angular Velocity When Moving on a Disk?

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The discussion revolves around the effect of a cockroach moving on a rotating disk on the system's angular velocity. The scenario involves a cockroach of mass m on the rim of a uniform disk of mass 10m, initially rotating with an angular velocity of ω₀. The cockroach then walks halfway to the center of the disk, prompting questions about the change in angular velocity.

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  • Participants explore the relationship between angular velocity and linear velocity, with some attempting to apply conservation of angular momentum. There are questions regarding the lack of numerical values and how to proceed with calculations without specific measurements.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants offering various approaches and questioning assumptions. Some suggest assigning variables to represent missing information, while others express uncertainty about the correctness of their reasoning. There is no explicit consensus on the method to solve the problem.

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Participants note the absence of numerical values and the challenge this presents in calculating changes in angular velocity. The discussion emphasizes the need to work with variables and the principles of angular momentum without providing complete solutions.

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a cockroach of mass m lies on the rim of a uniform disk of mass 10m that can rotate freely about its center like a merry go round. Initially the cockroach and disk rotate together with an angular velocity of \omega_0. Then the cockroach walks halfway to the center of the disk.

What is the change in \Delta \omega[/tex] in the angular velocity of the system?

I have no clue where to start...and no there are no numbers given.

Can some one help me/give me a hint?
 
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You know that angular velocity = linear velocity v/r, the radius of the disk...
The cockroach's initial angular velocity would have been some value like v/10 (Because the radius is 10m)
I'm going to guess its angular velocity was the same when it was halfway through, in which case its angular velocity would be v/5...
The difference would be v/5 - v/10 = 2v/10 - v/10 = v/10
So the angular velocity would have gotten two times faster. (Assuming what I'm doing is right... which I'm unsure of)
 
but the radius is not 10...
mass of cockroach = m
mass of disk = 10m (10 times as much as cockroach)
 
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When no numbers are given, assign variables and see if they cancel. You should apply the conservation of angular momentum principle

I_1\omega_1 = I_2\omega_2

The intertial moment is due to the disk and cockaroach. The disk's moment remains the same in 1 and 2. The moment of inertia of a point mass is I = mr^2.
 
so...how can I calculate everything if I don't have a radius?
 
As I've said, assign variables. Let the radius be anything R. Now continue to solve.
 
check the attached file

<< file with complete solution deleted by berkeman >>
 
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yellow_river said:
check the attached file

<< file with complete solution deleted by berkeman >>

Thank you for trying to help, yellow_river. But we do not provide complete solutions to Homework Help questions here on the PF. Please be tutorial in your help.
 

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