How Does Adiabatic Expansion Affect Ideal Gas Pressure?

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The discussion revolves around the adiabatic expansion of an ideal gas and its effect on pressure, specifically addressing how the pressure is reduced when the volume increases by 50%. The original poster presents a calculation using the relationship between pressure and volume in adiabatic processes.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to understand the setup of the equation relating pressure and volume during adiabatic expansion, questioning why the ratio of pressures is expressed in terms of the ratio of volumes raised to the power of gamma.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring the reasoning behind the algebraic manipulation used in the problem. Some have expressed confusion about the initial setup and are seeking clarification on the relationships between the variables involved.

Contextual Notes

There is an emphasis on understanding the underlying principles of adiabatic processes and the assumptions made in the calculations, particularly regarding the ideal gas behavior and the value of gamma.

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Homework Statement


an ideal gas is allowed to expand adiabatically until its volume increases by 50%. By what factor is the pressured reduced?(gamma=5/3)


Homework Equations



P1V1^gamma=P2V2^gamma

The Attempt at a Solution



P1V1^gamma=P2V2^gamma

v2=v1+.5V1=3/2V1

(p1/P2)=(v2/v1)^gamma=(3/2v1/v1)^gamma=3/2^gamma

so P2=P1/(3/2)^gamma=0.51P1 sp P2=.5P1

so reduced by approximately factor of 2

This is actually the correct answer, but i don't understand the why the intial setup of the calculation, is P1/P2=(V2/V1)^gamma, the problem is looking for the reduction of the pressure, could someone explain why your suppose to set up calculation this way?
 
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more specifically why do you put p1 over p2 (p1/p2) equal to v2 over v1 (v2/v1) in solving this problem?
 
trah22 said:
more specifically why do you put p1 over p2 (p1/p2) equal to v2 over v1 (v2/v1) in solving this problem?
?? It is just algebra:

[tex]P_1V_1^\gamma = K = P_2V_2^\gamma[/tex]

[tex]\frac{P_1V_1^\gamma}{P_2} = V_2^\gamma[/tex]

[tex]\frac{P_1}{P_2} = \frac{V_2^\gamma}{V_1^\gamma}= \left(\frac{V_2}{V_1}\right)^\gamma[/tex]

AM
 
lol for some reason i thought something else was going on, thanks anyways:biggrin:
 

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