How Does an Inductor Affect AC Current and Voltage Phase Relationship?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the effects of an inductor on the phase relationship between AC current and voltage. Participants explore the implications of reactance on the relationship between current and voltage, particularly in the context of inductors in AC circuits.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant states that current lags voltage by 90 degrees in an inductor and questions whether the current maintains its previous value but is simply out of phase, or if it is dependent solely on voltage.
  • Another participant reiterates the fundamental equation relating current and voltage in an inductor, suggesting that the voltage across an ideal inductor depends on the rate of change of current over time.
  • A participant introduces the complex impedance of the inductor, providing a formula for it, which includes resistance and inductance terms.
  • One participant shares insights from graphs, explaining that since voltage is the derivative of current, the peaks of voltage correspond to the troughs of current, indicating a relationship between their changes over time.
  • A later reply emphasizes the importance of considering the source impedance of the AC voltage source, suggesting that it affects the overall behavior of the circuit.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying interpretations of the relationship between current and voltage in inductors, with some agreeing on the phase lag while others explore different aspects of the relationship. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of reactance on current and voltage dependency.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the need to consider the source impedance of the AC voltage source, indicating that the behavior of the circuit may depend on additional factors not fully explored in the discussion.

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Say we have an inductor connected to an AC voltage source. Current will then lag voltage by 90 degrees.

Does the current maintain it's previous value (as if the inductor was not there) but 90 degrees out of phase, or is it still dependent only on voltage?

Rephrasing (in case that was poorly worded):

Current is a function of voltage and resistance. Does reactance change this relationship?

If the relationship doesn't change, how can current and voltage be out of phase with each other?
 
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fedaykin said:
Say we have an inductor connected to an AC voltage source. Current will then lag voltage by 90 degrees.

Does the current maintain it's previous value (as if the inductor was not there) but 90 degrees out of phase, or is it still dependent only on voltage?

Rephrasing (in case that was poorly worded):

Current is a function of voltage and resistance. Does reactance change this relationship?

If the relationship doesn't change, how can current and voltage be out of phase with each other?

The fundamental equation relating current and voltage in an inductor is:

[tex]v(t) = L \frac{di(t)}{dt}[/tex]

All of the behavior of an inductor in a circuit is defined by that equation. The voltage developed across an ideal inductor (with no internal series resistance) depends only on the change in the current with respect to time. So, you can define the complex impedance of the inductor to be what you would get if you wanted to be able to think of the impedance as a "resistance" in the equation V = IR. What would that complex impedance be?
 
Thank you very much.

Hehe, I got this straight out of my books. It's been a while since I've done much reading on electricity.

Z = R + 2j(pi)fL
 
I've used some graphs to help me understand what's happening.

Since voltage is the derivative of current with respect to time, the local maxima for voltage are the minima for current; when current is changing most is when voltage is at its peak and is changing the least.

'Competition' from change in current reversing affects the voltage from the source ... ? This may be entirely incorrect.
Or is there a better way of putting it?
 
fedaykin said:
I've used some graphs to help me understand what's happening.

Since voltage is the derivative of current with respect to time, the local maxima for voltage are the minima for current; when current is changing most is when voltage is at its peak and is changing the least.

'Competition' from change in current reversing affects the voltage from the source ... ? This may be entirely incorrect.
Or is there a better way of putting it?

You've got it pretty much correct. The only other thing to add into your mental picture is to not ignore the source impedance of the AC voltage source. The voltage source is not infinitely stiff -- remember to model the voltage source as an ideal AC voltage source, in series with the output impedance Zout. Zout is generally around 50 Ohms real for most lab signal generators, but can be different values (including complex) for other AC voltage sources.
 

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