How does centripetal force affects the path?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the effects of centripetal force on the motion of charged particles in a magnetic field, specifically addressing why the path remains circular rather than spiraling inward despite the presence of an inward force.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions why a charged particle in a magnetic field does not spiral inward despite an inward force acting on it.
  • Another participant explains that forces acting perpendicularly to the direction of motion do not change the particle's speed, only its direction.
  • A participant seeks clarification on why the path becomes a perfect circle rather than spiraling closer to the center, suggesting the term "spiral" to describe that alternative path.
  • Another participant elaborates that the path is circular because the force and acceleration are constant and perpendicular to the velocity, and that varying the force could lead to various paths, including spirals or other shapes, while maintaining constant speed.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing levels of understanding regarding the nature of the path taken by the particle, with some clarifying concepts while others remain uncertain about the implications of centripetal force.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve the initial question about the behavior of the particle's path under centripetal force, and assumptions about the constancy of speed and force are not fully explored.

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When there's magnetic field, a charged particle moves in a circle. I would like to ask why won't the circle goes smaller even when there's a force pointing inward (towards the center of the circle). Thank you!
 
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Any force that acts perpendicularly to the direction of motion doesn't change a particle's speed, only the direction. And the magnetic force always acts perpendicularly to the direction of motion.
 
So when it changes the direction of the path, why will it become a perfect circle instead of a path that circles around closer and closer to the center? Sorry i don't know the word to describe that path...
 
jaobyccdee said:
So when it changes the direction of the path, why will it become a perfect circle instead of a path that circles around closer and closer to the center?
The word you're looking for is spiral. The reason the path is a circle in this case is because the force (and acceleration) are constant as well as perpendicular to the path (velocity). If the amount of force varies with time, then just about any path would be possible, with the only constraint that speed is constant. The force could be adjusted to create a spiral, an ellipse, a parabola, a hyperbola, a sine wave, ... , any path that is possible with constant speed and only direction changes. For example, think of the possible paths your car could follow while moving at constant speed with just steering inputs, however if you hold the steering wheel in one position, then the car's path will be a circle (or a straight line) (assuming it doesn't slide).
 
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Thank you:)
 

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