How Does Changing Velocity and Area Affect Sphere Aerodynamics?

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The discussion centers around the investigation of the aerodynamics of a sphere, specifically examining how changes in velocity and cross-sectional area affect its motion. Participants explore both experimental setups and theoretical calculations related to drag and motion characteristics of spheres in airflow.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant plans to build a cardboard wind tunnel to investigate the effects of velocity and cross-sectional area on a sponge sphere's motion and seeks advice on relevant equations.
  • Another participant suggests that the investigation could be approached analytically by calculating the Reynolds number and drag coefficient, emphasizing the importance of understanding how diameter and velocity influence drag.
  • Concerns are raised about the suitability of sponge as a model material due to its potential to deform under airflow, which could introduce errors in the experimental setup.
  • Participants discuss the need for a uniform airflow in the wind tunnel and the challenges of measuring small drag forces accurately, suggesting that a sensitive force gauge would be necessary.
  • Questions are posed regarding the type of data that can be obtained from the wind tunnel and how that data can be related to the sphere's overall motion.
  • A participant expresses uncertainty about how to derive relevant data from the wind tunnel for their investigation.

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Participants express differing views on the feasibility and appropriateness of the proposed experimental setup, with some advocating for analytical approaches while others emphasize the necessity of an experimental investigation. There is no consensus on the best approach or the suitability of the materials suggested.

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Limitations include potential inaccuracies introduced by the choice of model material (sponge), the need for uniform airflow in the wind tunnel, and the challenge of measuring small drag forces. The discussion also highlights the need for clarity on how to relate experimental data to the sphere's motion.

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I have to do an investigation about the Aerodynamics of a ball/sphere and I have to look at how changing the velocity and the cross-sectional area of the ball affects it's motion.

I'm planning to build a wind tunnel out of cardboard and put a fan in it to generate the velocity wanted...I've got sponge spheres but not entirely sure they are the most appropriate

Any advices to this investigation would be welcome! Thanks

What equations are involved in this?
 
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Does your "investigation" have to be an experimental setup? The reason I ask is because you can pretty easily calculate the Reynold's number and drag coefficient of a sphere. By looking at how the ball's diameter and the stream's velocity are used in those calculations, you can see which parameters have the biggest effects on the ball's overall calculated drag. Heck you could even make some nice graphs that compare sphere diameter and wind speed as the independent variables to show exactly how they compare.

Building a home-made wind tunnel could be problematic as you would need to make sure the air stream flowing over the ball is uniform in velocity and hopefully not too turbulent... plus you would need a very sensitive force gauge to measure the drag on the sphere since the drag will probably be very, very small. It seems to me you would have to account for a lot more variables than if you just solved the problem analytically.
 
Sponge is not going to be a good choice for a model material. The biggest thing is that the sponge will deflect and change shape as the flow increases thus introducing even more error into your set up. Make the model out of something solid with a smooth surface, unless you also want to look at surface roughness effects.

The other thing you need to look at is what data you will get from a wind tunnel. I say this because your original purpose is to study the effects on its motion. What data do you hope to get from the tunnel? How will you relate those things to a sphere's overall motion? You'll get some drag data, but how are you going to use that data?
 
Mech_Engineer said:
Does your "investigation" have to be an experimental setup? The reason I ask is because you can pretty easily calculate the Reynold's number and drag coefficient of a sphere. By looking at how the ball's diameter and the stream's velocity are used in those calculations, you can see which parameters have the biggest effects on the ball's overall calculated drag. Heck you could even make some nice graphs that compare sphere diameter and wind speed as the independent variables to show exactly how they compare.

Building a home-made wind tunnel could be problematic as you would need to make sure the air stream flowing over the ball is uniform in velocity and hopefully not too turbulent... plus you would need a very sensitive force gauge to measure the drag on the sphere since the drag will probably be very, very small. It seems to me you would have to account for a lot more variables than if you just solved the problem analytically.

Yes it does have to be an experimental setup unfortunatelY!
 
FredGarvin said:
Sponge is not going to be a good choice for a model material. The biggest thing is that the sponge will deflect and change shape as the flow increases thus introducing even more error into your set up. Make the model out of something solid with a smooth surface, unless you also want to look at surface roughness effects.

The other thing you need to look at is what data you will get from a wind tunnel. I say this because your original purpose is to study the effects on its motion. What data do you hope to get from the tunnel? How will you relate those things to a sphere's overall motion? You'll get some drag data, but how are you going to use that data?

Yeah maybe your right sponge is not so good...

"What data do you hope to get from the tunnel? How will you relate those things to a sphere's overall motion? You'll get some drag data, but how are you going to use that data?"

That is my problem since I'm not entirely sure how to get some data relevant to my investigation
 

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