How Does Charge Distribution Affect Electric Field Above an Infinite Plane?

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The problem involves determining the electric field at a point above the center of an infinite plane with a uniform charge distribution. The context is within electrostatics, specifically focusing on charge distribution and its effects on electric fields.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the method of dividing the plane into strips and the appropriate use of charge densities. There are questions regarding the correctness of the trigonometric factors used in calculating the z-component of the electric field. Participants also explore the limits of integration for the strips.

Discussion Status

There is an active exploration of the problem with participants questioning the correctness of each other's reasoning and calculations. Some guidance has been offered regarding the limits of integration and the appropriate trigonometric functions to use, but no consensus has been reached on the final approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants are considering the implications of the limits of integration as the size of the plane approaches infinity and are reflecting on the assumptions made in the setup of the problem.

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Homework Statement


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Charge is distributed uniformly over a large square plane of side l, as shown in the figure. The charge per unit area (C/m^2) is \sigma. Determine the electric field at a point P a distance z above the center of the plane, in the limit l \to \infty.
[Hint: Divide the plane into long narrow strips of width dy, and use the result of Example 11]

Homework Equations


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Result of Example 11: \frac{2k\lambda }{x} (electric field at a distance x due to an infinitely long wire)(that point is symmetric about the x-axis, so there is no y component of the electric field.)

k = \frac{1}{4\pi\epsilon_0}

The Attempt at a Solution



Charge densities:
\sigma = \frac{dq}{dy*l} (an infinitely small q over an infinitely small surface)
\lambda = \frac{dq}{l} (total charge of the strip / total length)

dE = \frac{2k\lambda}{\sqrt{y^2+z^2}}
(electric field due to a long strip)
dE_z = dE sin\theta = \frac{2k\lambda y}{{(y^2+z^2)}^{3/2}}
(its z component is what we need)
dE_z = dE sin\theta = \frac{2k\sigma y}{{(y^2+z^2)}^{3/2}}dy
(dy is necessary, so replace lambda with sigma)

The following is what I get after the integration,

{-2\sigma k} \frac{1}{\sqrt {y^2+z^2}}

The limits are zero and infinity, so I end up with;
\frac{2\sigma k}{z}

There is an example of uniformly charged disk in my textbook. The formula for electric field for that disk does not depend on the distance. That's why I believe I've done this question wrong. What do you think about my solution? I am not sure if I wrote charge densities correct, so that may be the mistake.
 
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When getting the z-component you used a factor of sinθ. Is that correct?
 
TSny said:
When getting the z-component you used a factor of sinθ. Is that correct?
My bad... It should be cosine, shouldn't it?
 
Yes, that's right.
 
Also, should you end up with a power of 3/2 in the denominator of the integrand?
 
TSny said:
Also, should you end up with a power of 3/2 in the denominator of the integrand?

It must be raised to the first power I suppose, right?
 
Yes. What should be the limits on the integral in order to cover the entire plate?
 
TSny said:
Yes. What should be the limits on the integral in order to cover the entire plate?
I know we are doing good right now but I am not good at identifying the limits. Probably wrong, but I would say 0 and l.
 
You are integrating over strips. Where is the strip corresponding to y = 0? As y varies between 0 and ##l##, what strips are included?
 
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TSny said:
You are integrating over strips. Where is the strip corresponding to y = 0? As y varies between 0 and ##l##, what strips are included?

Then I guess -l/2 & l/2 would be the limits, or simply 2 * [0 to l/2]?
 
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Yes. Good. ( I should have said as y varies from 0 to ##l/2## above.)

So, as ##l## goes to infinity, you can see what the limits on the integral should be.
 
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