How Does Compactness Affect Function Behavior in Metric Spaces?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the relationship between compactness and function behavior in metric spaces, particularly focusing on a continuous function defined on a compact set within a separable metrizable space. Participants are examining a specific condition involving the infimum of distances between function values and the compact set.

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Main Points Raised

  • Wayne poses a question regarding the relationship between the compact set \( K \) and the continuous function \( f(t) \), specifically about the condition \( D_{K} \leq t \) and its implications.
  • Some participants seek clarification on the domain and codomain of the function \( f \), with initial confusion about its definitions.
  • One participant clarifies that the domain of \( f \) is \( \mathbb{R}^{+} \) and the codomain is \( E \), correcting an earlier misunderstanding.
  • Another participant explains that if \( D_k \leq t \), then \( f(D_k) \in K \), and discusses how to approximate \( D_k \) with rational numbers, leading to the conclusion that the infimum of the distance between \( f(q) \) and \( K \) must be zero.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express some agreement on the implications of the conditions involving \( D_k \) and the infimum, but there is ongoing confusion regarding the definitions of the function's domain and codomain, indicating a lack of consensus on these foundational aspects.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the clarity of the definitions of the function \( f \), particularly regarding its codomain, which affects the understanding of the discussion. Additionally, the mathematical steps leading to the conclusions are not fully resolved.

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Hello all,Here is my question while reading a proof.

For a compact set K in a separable metrizable spce (E,\rho) and a continuous function t \mapsto f(t), if we define

D_{K} = \inf \{ t \geq 0 \; : \; f(t) \in K \}

then, D_{K} \leq t if and only if \inf\{ \rho(f(q),K) : q \in \mathbb{Q} \cap [0,t] \} = 0

May someone shed some light on this? I do not understand it. Thanks very much.Wayne
 
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It's not really clear what the domain and codomain of your function f are.
 
Domain of f is \mathbb{R}^{+}
Codomain of f is \mathbb{R}
 
Huh? Then I don't understand f(t)\in K...
 
Oops...sorry, i misunderstood the term codomain. So codomain here should be E as stated.
 
If D_k \leq t then f(D_k)\in K. We can approximate D_k with rational numbers, and because D_k \in [0,t] we can approximate D_k with rational numbers in \mathbb{Q}\cap [0,t] If q_r is such a sequence converging to D_k, the distance between f(q_r) and f(D_k) goes to zero, which means the distance between f(q_r) and K must go to zero. So the infimum of the distance between f(q) and K for q\in \mathbb{Q}\cap [0,t] must be zero because we just found a sequence for which the distance is arbitrarily small.

This is basically the direction D_k\leq t implies the infimum is zero.
 

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