How Does Constant Acceleration Affect Antelope Speed Over 70 Meters?

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The discussion revolves around the problem of determining the initial speed and acceleration of an antelope moving with constant acceleration over a distance of 70 meters in 7 seconds, reaching a final speed of 15 m/s. Participants explore various kinematic equations and methods to solve for the initial speed and acceleration, engaging in both calculations and conceptual clarifications.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant calculates the initial speed at the first point to be 5 m/s using average speed and distance.
  • Another participant suggests using the kinematic equation for constant acceleration to solve for initial speed and acceleration.
  • A participant expresses uncertainty about how to apply the kinematic equations with the given numbers.
  • Further clarification is provided on solving physics problems using variables before substituting values, leading to the same conclusion of an initial speed of 5 m/s and an acceleration of approximately 1.43 m/s².
  • Another approach is introduced, utilizing equations for position and velocity over time, leading to the same initial speed but suggesting a negative acceleration, indicating the antelope is slowing down.
  • A participant proposes plotting velocity versus time and calculating the area under the curve to confirm the distance traveled, arriving at the same initial speed of 5 m/s.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the initial speed being 5 m/s, but there is a disagreement regarding the interpretation of acceleration, with one participant suggesting it is negative, indicating deceleration.

Contextual Notes

Some calculations depend on the assumptions made about the motion being uniformly accelerated, and there are unresolved aspects regarding the implications of negative acceleration.

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An antelope moving with constant acceleration covers the
distance between two points $\textbf{70.0m}$ apart in $\textbf{7.00s}$
Its speed as it passes the second point is $\textbf{15.00 m/s}$.
What is its speed at the first point?

The answer to this is 5 m/s

ok this should be real simple but kinda ?

$\displaystyle
\frac{70m}{7s}=\frac{10m}{s}$
so
$\displaystyle\frac{15-5}{2}=10\\
x=5$.

b. What is its acceleration

$\begin{align*}\displaystyle
a&=\frac{v_2-v_1}{t_2-t_1}\\
&=\frac{15-x}{7}\\
&\approx 1.43 m/s
\end{align*}$

kinda got it

suggestions?
 
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kinematics equation for constant acceleration ...

$\Delta x = \bar{v} \cdot t$

$\Delta x = \dfrac{v_0+v_f}{2} \cdot t$

solve for $v_0$, then $a = \dfrac{\Delta v}{t}$
 
ok, I don't think I know what that would look with numbers given?
 
karush said:
ok, I don't think I know what that would look with numbers given?

Sorry, but I don't understand what you mean by that statement ... physics problems are solved using variables, then values are substituted as the last step.

$\Delta x = \dfrac{v_0+v_f}{2} \cdot t \implies v_0 = \dfrac{2\Delta x}{t} - v_f$

now substitute in your given values ... $v_f = 15 \, m/s$, $t = 7 \, s$, and $\Delta x = 70 \, m$

$v_0 = \dfrac{2 \cdot 70 \, m}{7 \, s} - 15 \, m/s = 5 \, m/s$

finally ...

$a = \dfrac{\Delta v}{t} = \dfrac{v_f-v_0}{t} = \dfrac{15 \, m/s - 5 \, m/s}{7 \, s} = \dfrac{10}{7} \, m/s^2$
 
A slightly different way of looking at it. With constant acceleration a, initial speed [math]v_0[/math], initial position [math]x_0[/math], [math]v(t)= at+ v_0[/math] and [math]x(t)= x_0+ v_0t+ (a/2)t^2[/math].

Taking the first point to be [math]x_0= 0[/math], [math]x(7)= 7v_0+ (49/2)a= 70[/math] and [math]v(7)= 7a+ v_0= 15[/math]. Since we only want to determine [math]v_0[/math], multiply the second equation by 7/2 to get the same coefficient of a, (49/2)a+ (7/2)v_0= 105/2, and subtract from the first equation: [math](7- 7/2)v_0= (7/2)v_0= 70- 105/2= 35/2[/math] so [math]v_0= 35/7= 5[/math] m/s.

Put [math]v_0= 5[/math] into either of those equations and solve for a: The simpler is [math]7(5)+ v_0= 35+ v_0= 15[/math] so [math]v_0= 15- 35= -25 m/s^2[/math]. This is negative indicating that the antelope was slowing down.
 
Plot velocity versus time.
The Area under the curve is the distance traveled for a given time interval.

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Using the formula for volume of a trapezoid...

A =h (a+b)/2

Where:
a=v
b=15 m/s
h=7 s
A=70 m

then

70=7(v+15)/2
140/7=v+15
v=20-15=5
 

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