100 meter running with constant acceleration

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The problem involves two runners, Ann and Lisa, who both accelerate to their maximum speeds before finishing a 100-meter race in the same time of 10.2 seconds. Ann reaches her maximum speed in 2.0 seconds, while Lisa takes 3.0 seconds. The task is to determine their respective accelerations, maximum speeds, and their positions at a specific time during the race.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the equations of motion and how to express variables in terms of acceleration. There is an attempt to set up equations based on the time taken to reach maximum speed and the total distance covered.

Discussion Status

Some participants are exploring the relationships between acceleration, time, and distance, while others are questioning their initial assumptions and the number of unknowns in their equations. A participant acknowledges a shift in thinking that led to a more comprehensive approach to the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the constraints of the problem, including the total time of 10.2 seconds and the total distance of 100 meters, which are critical for setting up the equations correctly. There is an indication that the problem may require more complex reasoning than initially anticipated.

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Hello, I am currently by some reason struggling with this problem. I cannot seem to get the correct reasoning here. I would appreciate any help!

1. Homework Statement

Ann and Lisa cross the 100 m finish line at the same time, 10.2 s after start.
Both had constant acceleration until they reached max speed.
Ann used 2.0 s to reach max speed.
Lisa used 3.0 s to reach max speed.
The max speed was sustained until they reached the finish line.

1) What was their respective acceleration?
2) What was their respective max speed?
3) Who was in the lead after 6.0 s and by how many meters?

Homework Equations


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[itex]v=v_0+at[/itex]
[itex]x=x_0+v_0t+.5at^2[/itex]
[itex]v^2=v^2_0+2aΔx[/itex]

The Attempt at a Solution


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0 = start, 1 = max speed reached, 2 = goal.

For Ann:
[itex]t_1=2s[/itex], [itex]t_2=8.2s[/itex], [itex]v_0=0[/itex], [itex]x_0=0[/itex], [itex]v_1=v_2[/itex]

[itex]v_1=at_1[/itex], [itex]x_1=.5at^2_1[/itex], [itex]v_1t_2=x_2[/itex]

Here I am struggling, If I do this for both I get 8 unknowns with 6 equations.
 
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MariusM said:

1. Homework Statement

Ann and Lisa cross the 100 m finish line at the same time, 10.2 s after start.
Both had constant acceleration until they reached max speed.
Ann used 2.0 s to reach max speed.
Lisa used 3.0 s to reach max speed.
The max speed was sustained until they reached the finish line.

The Attempt at a Solution


[/B]
0 = start, 1 = max speed reached, 2 = goal.

For Ann:
[itex]t_1=2s[/itex], [itex]t_2=8.2s[/itex], [itex]v_0=0[/itex], [itex]x_0=0[/itex], [itex]v_1=v_2[/itex]

[itex]v_1=at_1[/itex], [itex]x_1=.5at^2_1[/itex], [itex]v_1t_2=x_2[/itex]

Here I am struggling, If I do this for both I get 8 unknowns with 6 equations.

You know that Ann used t1=2 s to reach the maximum speed. You also know that the whole time is 10.2 s and the whole distance is 100 m. express v1 and x1 in terms of Ann's acceleration, a. Try to find a from the data given.
Do the same for Lisa.
 
Got it. Thank you! I was to narrow with my thinking, "dumbing" the problem down too much and didn't consider it would have to involve more thinking than just the 3 equations i gave. The fourth I consider was just some rubbish once I checked the dimensions. [itex]v_1t_1+x_1=100[/itex] was the last one necessary and I was OK. Again, thanks!
 
You are welcome :)
 

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