How does declination and right ascension relate to latitude / longetude?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the relationship between declination and right ascension in the context of celestial coordinates, particularly how they relate to terrestrial latitude and longitude. Participants seek clarification on the orientation and measurement of these lines in the celestial coordinate system.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that declination lines are vertical like longitude, while right ascension lines are horizontal like latitude, but expresses confusion about the measurement of these angles.
  • Another participant asserts that declination is equivalent to latitude, being measured from the celestial equator, while right ascension is equivalent to longitude, starting at the vernal equinox.
  • A different participant describes declination lines as running North-South, beginning at the Ecliptic Plane, and states that right ascension lines run West-East, fixed in the sky and varying with time of day.
  • One participant corrects a previous statement about the orientation of latitude and longitude, emphasizing that latitude lines run East-West and longitude lines run North-South.
  • Another participant acknowledges a misunderstanding regarding the orientation of longitude and reiterates that right ascension is based on the Ecliptic Plane and local time factors.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the orientation and measurement of declination and right ascension, with no consensus reached on the precise definitions and relationships between these celestial coordinates and terrestrial latitude and longitude.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the definitions of declination and right ascension, as well as their relationship to the Ecliptic Plane and local time considerations. The discussion reflects varying interpretations of these concepts.

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It seems to me declination lines are vertical like longitude, and coordinates is measured horizontally (but if it runs vertical than how could it be measured as 0° at the equator?), and right ascension lines run horizontal like latitude with coordinates measured vertically.

However this doesn't seem to be the case so I need some clarification.

What directions do the declination and right ascension lines actually run? and where do their 0 degrees/hours begin?
 
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Hi Sqw! :smile:

No, declination (as the name suggests) is angle above the celestial equator, equivalent to latitude (and is 0 at the celestial equator), and right ascension (silly name) is equivalent to longitude (and is 0 at the vernal equinox), see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equatorial_coordinate_system :wink:
 
Latitudinal Lines run North-South.

Longitudinal Lines run West-East.

They are fixed to the planet.

Declination Lines run North-South but begin at the Ecliptic Plane but is fixed in the celestial Sky.

The Ecliptic Plane varies depending what time of year it is will be -20 to 20deg from the Equator.

Right Ascension run West-East on that plane also fixed in the sky and varies due to the time of day.
 
Philosophaie said:
Latitudinal Lines run North-South.

Longitudinal Lines run West-East.

They are fixed to the planet.

you had better think about that one ;)

lines of latitude run east west -- parallel to the equator :)

and opposite for lines of longitude

Dave
 
Latitudinal Lines run North-South.
Longitudinal Lines run West-East.

I stand corrected.

Longitudinal Lines do run from North-to-South. Increasing in magnitude from West-to-East. Are based on Terra Firma, Earth.

Right Ascension Lines run from North-to-South. Increasing in magnitude from West-to-East. Are based on the Ecliptic Plane(the angle the Earth orbit makes with the Sun) and are fixed in the Sky. Right Ascension is based on the Longitude, the time of day, timezone, daylight savings time and the Local Mean Sidereal Time which equates it with the Vernal Equinox on the Ecliptic Plane.

Latitudinal Lines do run from West-to-East. Increasing in magnitude from North-to-South. Are based on Terra Firma, Earth.

Declination Lines run from West-to-East. Increasing in magnitude from North-to-South. Are fixed in the Sky. The magnitude is simply equal to the Latitude.
 
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