How Does Dropping Rocks from Different Heights Affect Kinetic Energy Ratios?

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The problem involves comparing the kinetic energy of two rocks dropped from different heights above the Earth's surface, specifically from distances of RE and 2RE. The original poster is attempting to determine the ratio K2/K1 of their kinetic energies upon impact.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the potential energy changes for each rock and question the assumptions made regarding gravitational force. There is an exploration of how to correctly calculate the gravitational potential energy at different heights.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered guidance on the correct approach to calculating gravitational potential energy, suggesting that the original poster reconsider the use of a constant gravitational acceleration. The discussion is ongoing, with participants clarifying concepts and exploring different interpretations of the problem.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted concern regarding the assumption of gravitational acceleration being constant over the distances involved, which may affect the calculations of potential energy.

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Homework Statement


A rock is dropped from a distance RE above the surface of the Earth, and is observed to have a kinetic energy of K1, when it hits the ground. An identical rock is dropped from 2RE above the surface and has kinetic energy K2 when it hits the ground. Re is the radius of the earth. What is K2/K1.

a) 2 b) 4/3 c) 3/2 d) 2/3 e)4

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The Attempt at a Solution



K1= (-GMm)/(RE+ RE)= (−GMm)/2RE K2 = (-GMm)/(RE+ 2RE)= (−GMm)/3RE

K2/K1 = [(−GMm)/3RE]/[(−GMm)/2RE] = [(−GMm)/3RE] * [(2RE/(−GMm)] = 2/3 = d).
However the answer is 4/3, where did I go wrong?



 
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You want to compare the changes in PE that each rock undergoes when they fall. Where does each rock end up at then end of its fall? Not at infinity...
 
Oh I see where I made a mistake, thank you!
 
But how do we compare the changes in PE do we do mgRe?
 
Sparkling Eyes said:
But how do we compare the changes in PE do we do mgRe?
No. Those distances are too great to be taking g as a constant. Use PEgrav=-GMm/r, as in the OP.
 

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