How Does Energy Transfer in a Triangular Wave Pulse?

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The discussion revolves around the energy transfer in a triangular wave pulse generated on a fixed string when one end is moved transversely. Participants are tasked with calculating the kinetic and potential energies associated with the pulse and demonstrating the relationship between these energies and the work done by the transverse force applied to the string.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants explore the relationships between kinetic energy density, potential energy density, and the work done. There are attempts to manipulate equations to show equivalence, with some questioning the definitions and assumptions regarding the forces involved.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants raising questions about the validity of certain equations and the assumptions made regarding forces. Some guidance is provided regarding the relationships between variables, but there is no explicit consensus on the interpretations or methods being discussed.

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Participants are navigating potential typos and clarifying the definitions of terms such as tension and the forces involved in the wave generation process. There is an acknowledgment of the complexity in relating the work done to the energy densities calculated.

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Homework Statement



one end of a fixed string is moved transversly at a constant speed u for a time τ and is moved back to it's starting point with velocity -u during the next time interval. as a result a triangular pulse is set up and moves along the string with speed v. Calculate the kinetic and potential energies associated with the pulse, and show that their sum is equal to the work done by the transverse force that has to be applied at the end of the string.


Homework Equations



Work = F x displacement
Power = Work x time

PE density = T/2 (dy/dx)^2
KE density = μ/2 (dy/dt)^2

v = (T/μ)^0.5 (T = tension)

The Attempt at a Solution



the triangle pulse:

y = A f(x-vt)

KE density = μ/2 A^2[-vAf'(x-vt)]^2
PE density = t/2 A^2 [f'(x-vt)]^2

using v = (T/mu)^0.5 you get that PE = KE therefore

total energy density = μ A^2 v^2 [f'(x-vg)]^2

work = power x time

W = T x u x 2τ

-TvA[f'(x-vt)] x 2τ

I can't seem to rearrange them to get them the same. I tried using v = λ/(2τ)

thank you
 
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total energy density = μ A^2 v^2 [f'(x-vg)]^2
I guess "g" is a typo and you mean t?
If you replace v^2 by T/μ there, the equations get more similar.

W = T x u x 2τ
I don't understand where this comes from. The force required to move the line is not T.
 
mfb said:
I guess "g" is a typo and you mean t?
If you replace v^2 by T/μ there, the equations get more similar.

I don't understand where this comes from. The force required to move the line is not T.

Isn't the force your putting on the end of the string the tension T?
 
The motion is transversal, the sidewards force (=relevant for the wave generation) is different.
 

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