How Does Equation (1) Translate to Equation (2) in Simple Harmonic Motion?

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The discussion revolves around deriving the position function of a simple harmonic oscillator, specifically transitioning from one equation to another in the context of simple harmonic motion. The original poster is attempting to understand how to relate two equations derived from the motion of a spring mass system.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster describes their process of deriving the motion equation using Newton's second law and Hooke's law, leading to a differential equation. They express confusion about the transition from their derived equation to a standard form involving trigonometric functions. Some participants suggest the use of trigonometric identities, while others question the specific laws applicable in this context.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the equations involved. Some guidance has been offered, suggesting that working backwards might help clarify the transition between the equations. However, there is no explicit consensus on the exact trigonometric law or method to apply.

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I'm supposed to derive x as a function of time for a simple
harmonic oscillator (ie, a spring). According to my textbook
this is done by using Newton's second law and hooke's law
as this: ma=-kx and one gets a differential equation in
the second order. I can follow the calculations until this
happens: (see attached picture)

(where omega is the frequency)

I do get the equation (1) when I solve the differential
equation myself but I don't understand how equation (1) translates
to (2)?
I assume this must be done by using some trigonometric law?
if so then which one and how??
Thanks
 

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Spring mass systems often use omega to represent sqrt(k/m). It isn't a trigonometric law, though if your textbook eventually (I can't see the picture so I don't know) represents the motion as x(t) = Acos(wt + ø) then you will need to use trig.
 
Mindscrape said:
Spring mass systems often use omega to represent sqrt(k/m). It isn't a trigonometric law, though if your textbook eventually (I can't see the picture so I don't know) represents the motion as x(t) = Acos(wt + ø) then you will need to use trig.

That's right.. but exactly which trig law do I use and how do I use it to go from equation (1) above in the attached picture to x(t) = Asin(wt + ø).

Or in other words HOW do I go FROM x(t)=x0cos(wt)+(v0/w)sin(wt) ---- (w being = sqrt(k/m) TO x(t) = Asin(wt + ø)
how? HOW? HOW?!??!? HOW?!?
 
That is for you to find out. :p

Try working backwards, it might be a little easier.
 

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