How Does High-Frequency Ultrasound Affect Electromagnetic Fields?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the effects of extremely high-frequency ultrasound on electromagnetic fields, particularly in relation to electromagnets and conductive wires transmitting electrical current. Participants explore the mechanical and electromagnetic interactions at high frequencies, including the implications for magnetic field oscillation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the impact of extremely high-frequency ultrasound on an electromagnet and whether the magnetic field would oscillate at that frequency.
  • Another participant suggests that ultrasonic waves are mechanical effects and do not directly affect magnetic fields, but movement of the wire could change the observed magnetic field.
  • A participant raises a clarification about the term "ultrasound," asking if it refers to actual sound or high-frequency AC electric current, noting that AC produces an oscillating field while ultrasound does not directly affect magnetic fields.
  • One participant asserts that ultrasound in the 1GHz+ range can vibrate the magnetic field of a transformer core.
  • A later reply expresses skepticism about the existence of ultrasound at frequencies above 100kHz and questions what would generate such high-frequency ultrasound.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the effects of high-frequency ultrasound on electromagnetic fields, with no consensus reached on the nature of these interactions or the existence of ultrasound at very high frequencies.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the definitions of ultrasound and its effects on electromagnetic fields remain unresolved, and the discussion includes varying perspectives on the frequency ranges involved.

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What impact will a extremely high frequency of ultrasound have on a electromagnet?
Will the magnetic field also oscillate at that frequency?

What about a conductive wire transmitting electrical current? Will ultrasound on the wire cause the magnetic field to oscillate?
 
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The ultrasonic wave is just a mechanical effect, so it won't affect a magnetic field directly.

But if the wire moves, it takes its magnetic field with it, so the magnetic field may move closer or further away from a given point, so it might change the observed magnetic field at that point.
 
RedPhase said:
What impact will a extremely high frequency of ultrasound have on a electromagnet?
Will the magnetic field also oscillate at that frequency?

What about a conductive wire transmitting electrical current? Will ultrasound on the wire cause the magnetic field to oscillate?

By "ultrasound" do you mean Actual Sound or a high frequency AC Electric Current?
Sound will have no direct effect but high frequency (any frequency of) AC produces an oscillating field.* The problem will be that an electromagnet will have a high Self Inductance and that will limit the actual value of the current, which will severely limit the value of Magnetic field obtainable - unless you can tune out the inductance with an appropriate Capacitor. This is an added complication.
*The basis of a radio transmitting antenna.
 
Yes.

Ultrasound in the 1GHz+ range(not RF) that vibrates the magnetic field of a transformer core.
 
RedPhase said:
Yes.

Ultrasound in the 1GHz+ range(not RF) that vibrates the magnetic field of a transformer core.

are you really really sure ??

I haven't heard of ultrasound at anything over ~ 100kHz let alone 1MHz 100MHz or higher

what is supposed to be generating this ultrasound?

Dave
 

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