How Does Internal Resistance Affect Diode Load Line Graphs?

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The discussion focuses on the impact of internal resistance on diode load line graphs in circuits with both DC and AC supplies. It explores the differences in load line characteristics between circuits with and without internal resistance in diodes, as well as the implications of replacing a DC source with an AC source on maximum voltage conclusions.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that the load line graph of a circuit with a diode and no internal resistance will have a steeper slope compared to one with internal resistance, as the latter limits current flow and affects voltage drop.
  • It is proposed that in a circuit with a diode and internal resistance, the voltage drop varies with current, unlike in the case of a diode without internal resistance where the voltage drop remains constant.
  • One participant argues that it is not possible to conclude the maximum voltage (Vm) of an AC source based solely on the DC voltage applied to the diode, citing that diode behavior changes with AC sources.
  • Another participant questions the clarity of the second question posed, indicating a need for better phrasing to facilitate understanding.

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There appears to be disagreement regarding the clarity of the questions posed, as well as differing views on the implications of internal resistance on load line graphs and the relationship between DC and AC voltages in diode circuits.

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The discussion highlights potential limitations in understanding the effects of internal resistance and the behavior of diodes under different voltage sources, but does not resolve these complexities.

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Hello there,
I have 2 questions:

1)What's the difference between the load line graph of a circuit having (a DC supply, diode with no internal resistance, and a resistor R) & another circuit having (a DC supply, diode WITH internal resistance, and a resistor R)?

2)If we have a circuit supplying the diode with DC voltage, let's say of value (E) - can we conclude from that the Vm (Maximum Voltage) if DC source was replaced by AC one (of the form V=Vmsin(ωt)? Can we? :S
 
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M. next said:
I have 2 questions:

1)What's the difference between the load line graph of a circuit having (a DC supply, diode with no internal resistance, and a resistor R) & another circuit having (a DC supply, diode WITH internal resistance, and a resistor R)?
What are your thoughts on this?
2)If we have a circuit supplying the diode with DC voltage, let's say of value (E) - can we conclude from that the Vm (Maximum Voltage) if DC source was replaced by AC one (of the form V=Vmsin(ωt)? Can we? :S
Your question is not phrased sufficiently clearly for my understanding.
 
What's not clear about my second question? What exactly?
And what do you mean by " What are your thoughts on this?"
 
M. next said:
What's not clear about my second question? What exactly?
Exactly the whole question. Can you please re-phrase it in proper english?
 


1) The load line graph of a circuit with a diode and no internal resistance will have a steeper slope compared to a circuit with a diode and internal resistance. This is because the internal resistance of the diode will limit the current flow and therefore affect the voltage drop across the diode. In the first circuit, the diode will have a constant voltage drop regardless of the current, whereas in the second circuit, the voltage drop will vary with the current due to the internal resistance.

2) No, we cannot conclude the Vm (maximum voltage) of an AC source by knowing the DC voltage applied to the diode. This is because the behavior of a diode changes when an AC source is applied, and it will not have a constant voltage drop like in the DC case. The Vm will depend on the frequency and characteristics of the AC source, and cannot be determined solely by the DC voltage.
 

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