How Does Newton's Third Law Apply When a Truck Pulls a Car?

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The discussion revolves around the application of Newton's Third Law in a scenario where a truck is pulling a car under various conditions, including constant velocity and acceleration, as well as a situation where the car's emergency brake is engaged.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

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  • The original poster attempts to understand the forces involved in each scenario, particularly focusing on the implications of the emergency brake on the car's motion. Some participants suggest using free body diagrams to clarify the forces acting on both the truck and the car.

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Participants are engaged in exploring the problem, with some providing feedback on the original poster's attempts to visualize the forces through free body diagrams. There is an indication of uncertainty regarding the correctness of the original poster's reasoning, particularly in the context of the third scenario.

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Participants are discussing the need for separate free body diagrams for both the truck and the car, emphasizing the importance of clearly identifying the forces acting on each vehicle in the context of the problem.

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Homework Statement


A truck is pulling a car.
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    is the magnitude of the force that the truck exerts on the car
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    is the magnitude of the force that the car exerts on the truck
Consider the following scenarios independently.

1. The truck is driving up a mountain with a constant velocity, neglecting friction.
2. The truck is speeding up while driving up a mountain, neglecting friction.
3.The truck is driving with a constant velocity, but as it turns out, the driver of the car left the emergency brake on.

Homework Equations


F=ma

The Attempt at a Solution


I know that the answer to all of the scenarios are FT = FC > 0 (the key for this past homework problem is available to me), but I trying to explain the concept to myself. The 3rd one is the hardest one for me. I suppose since the mass of the car and truck are not changing, that the truck must be moving at a faster speed to compensate for the emergency brake? Am I thinking about this correctly?
 
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FT is the magnitude of the force that the truck exerts on the car
FC is the magnitude of the force that the car exerts on the truck

Sorry that it did not post correctly in the first post!
 
Have you drawn separate free body diagrams of the truck and of the car, showing the forces acting on each, or do you feel that you have advanced beyond the point where you need to draw free body diagrams? If you have drawn free body diagrams, please show them for case c.

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I am not sure if this is correct though!
 
sciencecats said:
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I am not sure if this is correct though!
The free body diagram for the car is correct. Nice job. The free body diagram for the truck is not separate (and should be). Please draw it separately. Then write down a horizontal force balance on the truck and a separate horizontal force balance on the car. (For case 3)
 

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