How Does Photon Wavelength Affect Electron Ejection and Metal Work Function?

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The discussion revolves around the photoelectric effect, specifically examining how the wavelength of a photon influences the ejection of an electron from a metal and the associated work function. The original poster presents a scenario involving a photon of 250 nm and an ejected electron with a de Broglie wavelength of 0.85 nm, leading to questions about kinetic energy and work function calculations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between photon energy and electron kinetic energy, questioning the calculations and assumptions regarding the work function. There are discussions on using de Broglie wavelength to find momentum and subsequently kinetic energy, as well as clarifications on the correct units for momentum.

Discussion Status

The conversation includes attempts to clarify the distinction between the energy of the photon and the kinetic energy of the ejected electron. Some participants suggest using the de Broglie wavelength to find momentum and energy, while others question the initial calculations and the application of relevant equations. There is an acknowledgment of confusion regarding the correct approach, but no explicit consensus has been reached.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the necessity of considering the work function in the context of the energy required to free the electron from the atom. There is also mention of a diagram linked to the problem, which may provide additional context for the electronic transitions involved.

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Homework Statement


A photon of wavelength 250 nm ejects an electron from a metal. The ejected electron has a de Broglie wavelength of 0.85 nm.

(a) Calculate the kinetic energy of the electron.

(b) Assuming that the kinetic energy found in (a) is the maximum kinetic energy that it could have, calculate the work function of the metal.

(c) The incident photon was created when an atom underwent an electronic transition. On the energy level diagram of the atom (given by link), the transition labeled X corresponds to a photon wavelength of 400 nm. Indicate which transition could be the source of the original 250 nm photon by circling the correct letter.

Diagram is last page here: http://apcentral.collegeboard.com/apc/public/repository/ap09_frq_physics_b.pdf

Homework Equations


KE = .5mv^2


The Attempt at a Solution



a) The kinetic energy of an electron:
f = c/\lambda
f = (3.0 * 10^8 m/s)/(8.5 * 10^(-10) m)
f = 3.53 * 10^17 Hz

E = hf
E = (4.14 * 10^(-15) eV\bullets)(3.53 * 10^17 Hz)
E = 1461.42 eV

b) \phi = Work Function
KEmax = hf - \phi
1461.42 eV = 1461.42 eV - \phi
\phi = 0

But I know this is incorrect.

Would I have to use KEmax = e\DeltaV for part (a)? If so, how do I find \DeltaV?
 
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The kinetic energy of an electron:
f = c/LaTeX Code: \\lambda
f = (3.0 * 10^8 m/s)/(8.5 * 10^(-10) m)
f = 3.53 * 10^17 Hz

This is wrong.
From de Broglie wave length you can find momentum first. p = h/λ.
 


For part (a), you calculated the energy of the photon, not of the electron. Remember that the electron starts out "attached" (bound) to the atom, and it takes part of the photon's energy just to separate the electron from the atom. (That part is called the work function.) The leftover energy stays with the electron as kinetic energy, and it's that leftover energy that you are asked to find in part (a). You can do it by using the electron's de Broglie wavelength of 0.85 nm. Do you know a formula involving de Broglie wavelength?
 


So, using p = h/\lambda :

p = (6.63 * 10^(-34) J*s)/(8.5*10^(-10) m)
p = 7.8 * 10^(-25)

Or would you use h = 4.14 * 10^(-15) eV*s?
In which p = 4.87*10^(-6)?

And what are the units for the momentum? Simply kg*m/s?
 


And what are the units for the momentum? Simply kg*m/s?
Yes.
Now using momentum find energy. E = p^2/2m
 


rl.bhat said:
And what are the units for the momentum? Simply kg*m/s?
Yes.
Now using momentum find energy. E = p^2/2m

E = [(4.87*10^(-6) kg*m/s)^2]/[2(9.11*10^(-31) kg)] = 1.30 * 10^19 J

If this is correct, than for part (b), E = hf - \phi, correct? Or is there another equation?
 


science.girl said:
E = [(4.87*10^(-6) kg*m/s)^2]/[2(9.11*10^(-31) kg)] = 1.30 * 10^19 J

If this is correct, than for part (b), E = hf - \phi, correct? Or is there another equation?
p should be in kg.m/s not in eV.
 


rl.bhat said:
p should be in kg.m/s not in eV.

Oops! p = 7.8 * 10^(-25) kg.m/s
Therefore:
E = [(7.8 * 10^(-25) kg.m/s)^2]/[2(9.11*10^(-31) kg)] = 3.38*10^(-19) J

And E = hf - \phi?

UPDATE:
Is this it?

E = hf - \phi = hc/\lambda - \phi where you take the difference of the energy of the electron and the energy of the photon to reach the answer?
 
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Never mind. I figured it out. Thanks for your help.
 

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