How Does Speed Affect Radar Frequency Shift?

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The discussion revolves around the frequency shift of a police radar signal when reflecting off a moving vehicle. The original poster presents a problem involving radar waves, specifically a 72 GHz signal, and a car moving at 111 km/h, while mistakenly using the speed of sound instead of the speed of light.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to apply formulas for frequency shift but encounters issues with their calculations. They question their approach after realizing a potential error related to the speed of light.

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Participants have identified a significant error regarding the speed of light, which has led to a reconsideration of the problem context. The original poster is seeking further clarification on any additional mistakes they may have made.

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The discussion highlights a misunderstanding stemming from the context of the chapter being focused on sound rather than radar technology, which may have influenced the original poster's approach to the problem.

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What is the frequency shift of a 72 GHz police radar signal when it reflects off a car moving at 111 km/h? (Radar waves travel at the speed of light = 340 m/s.)

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f' = f(1 +- u/v) (moving observer, + appr, -receding)
f' = f/(1 +- u/v) (moving source, - appr, +receding)
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f = 72 GHz = 72 * 10^9 Hz.
u = 111 * 10^3 / 3600 m/s
v = 340 m/s

f' = f(1+u/v)
f'' = f(1+u/v)/(1-u/v)
f'' = (72 * 10^9 Hz)(1+(111 * 10^3 / 3600 m/s)/340)(1-(111 * 10^3 / 3600 m/s)/340)

Calculating this formula does not give the correct result. What am I doing wrong?
 
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The speed of light is actually a lot larger than 340 m/s. It seems you're using the speed of sound instead.
 
Wow, that is probably the reason. The whole chapter was on sound so I thought the problem was, too, and didn't read it correctly. Did I make any other mistakes? Thanks.
 
I don't remember the exact formulas and don't have them handy, I just spotted the velocity error so I posted.
 

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