How Does Spring Compression Affect Sled Velocity at a Waterpark?

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The problem involves analyzing the motion of a sled propelled by a compressed spring at a waterpark. The spring has a force constant of 3600 N/m and is compressed by 0.385 m before releasing a sled with a total mass of 75.0 kg. The questions focus on determining the sled's speed at two different points: when the spring is fully uncompressed and when it is still compressed to 0.215 m.

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  • Participants discuss the calculations for the sled's speed using work-energy principles, questioning the values used for spring compression. There is confusion regarding whether the compression for Part B should be 0.210 m or 0.215 m, leading to different interpretations of the problem setup.

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Some participants have provided calculations for the sled's speed, while others are seeking clarification on the correct compression distance to use. There is an ongoing exploration of the work done by the spring at different compression levels, with no consensus reached yet on the correct approach for Part B.

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Participants are navigating potential discrepancies in the problem statement regarding the compression distances and are working within the constraints of the homework guidelines, which may limit the type of assistance they can provide to one another.

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Homework Statement


At a waterpark, sleds with riders are sent along a slippery, horizontal surface by the release of a large, compressed spring. The spring with a force constant k = 3600 N/m and negligible mass rests on the frictionless horizontal surface. One end is in contact with a stationary wall. A sled and rider with total mass 75.0 kg are pushed against the other end, compressing the spring 0.385 m. The sled is then released with zero initial velocity.

A. What is the sled's speed when the spring returns to its uncompressed length?
B. What is the sled's speed when the spring is still compressed 0.215 m?

Homework Equations


W=K2-K1
W=1/2kx^2-1/2kx^2
W=1/2kx^2

The Attempt at a Solution


I solved A by using W=1/2kx^2 to find the work done by the spring to be 266.81J. I then used that along with V1=0, k=3600 and m=75.0 to find V2 which was 2.67m/s. I got this part right.

Part B is where I am having some trouble.

My first try, I tried to do the same thing as above.
I found the work done by the spring at .210m:
W=1/2(3600)(.210)^2=83.205J

and then I used this in the W=K2-K1 with V1 being zero
83.205=1/2(75)(V2)^2-1/2(75)(0)^2

V2=1.49m/s <--- this answer was wrong.

My second try, I did the same thing except I used W=1/2kx^2-1/2kx^2, using X1=.210m and x2=.385m. With this, I found the work done to be W=183.6J

Using that, I plugged it into the W=KE2-KE1 to find V1:
183.6=1/2(75.0)(2.67)^2-1/2(75.0)(V1)
V1=1.50

Can someone show me what I am doing wrong?
 
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For Part B, is it .210m or .215m as in the original question you posted?
 
B. What is the sled's speed when the spring is still compressed 0.215 m?
Still compressed means, is it in addition to 0.385 m?
 
rl.bhat said:
B. What is the sled's speed when the spring is still compressed 0.215 m?
Still compressed means, is it in addition to 0.385 m?

I think the OP has understood it correctly insofar as it wants to know what the speed is as it passes .215m going to 0 detent.
 
LowlyPion said:
For Part B, is it .210m or .215m as in the original question you posted?

It's .215m, my bad.
 
Aiko said:

Homework Statement


At a waterpark, sleds with riders are sent along a slippery, horizontal surface by the release of a large, compressed spring. The spring with a force constant k = 3600 N/m and negligible mass rests on the frictionless horizontal surface. One end is in contact with a stationary wall. A sled and rider with total mass 75.0 kg are pushed against the other end, compressing the spring 0.385 m. The sled is then released with zero initial velocity.

A. What is the sled's speed when the spring returns to its uncompressed length?
B. What is the sled's speed when the spring is still compressed 0.215 m?

Homework Equations


W=K2-K1
W=1/2kx^2-1/2kx^2
W=1/2kx^2

The Attempt at a Solution


I solved A by using W=1/2kx^2 to find the work done by the spring to be 266.81J. I then used that along with V1=0, k=3600 and m=75.0 to find V2 which was 2.67m/s. I got this part right.

Part B is where I am having some trouble.

My first try, I tried to do the same thing as above.
I found the work done by the spring at .210m:
W=1/2(3600)(.210)^2=83.205J

and then I used this in the W=K2-K1 with V1 being zero
83.205=1/2(75)(V2)^2-1/2(75)(0)^2

V2=1.49m/s <--- this answer was wrong.

My second try, I did the same thing except I used W=1/2kx^2-1/2kx^2, using X1=.210m and x2=.385m. With this, I found the work done to be W=183.6J

Using that, I plugged it into the W=KE2-KE1 to find V1:
183.6=1/2(75.0)(2.67)^2-1/2(75.0)(V1)
V1=1.50

Can someone show me what I am doing wrong?

Does anyone know what I am doing wrong?
 
Spring Potential E(.385) - Spring Potential E(.215) = 1/2*m*v2

3600/2*((.385)2 - (.215)2) = 1/2*75*V2

V2 = 1800*(.102)*2/75

V = 2.12
 

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