News How Does the Far Right Influence the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict?

[kat]

Originally posted by Zargawee


Really ? Duhh !
This is what they did from 1967 to 1988 ! and what happened then ?

Zargawee- There was no peace from the PLO or Palestinian terrorist in that time period. In 1968 the PLO Covenant was declared, this declares the duty of Arabs and Palestinians all over the world to destory Israel, it specificly calls for "armed revolution, until they liberate their homeland" homeland meaning the entire area including israel "proper". Along with this covenant came an increase in terrorist activities including the hi-jacking of the El-Al, the car bombing in yehude market that killed at least a dozen and injured many more. Also in 1968 the war of attrition initiated by egypt and jordan. 1970 or 71 was a very serious terror attack that killed 12 small children. In 1970 the PLO were also very busy with Black September, in which the PLO attempted to take over Jordan, they were not successful and were forced out of jordan taking refuge in Lebanon, we won't get into the horrors against christian villages in the mountains, literally wiping out entire villages of lebanese christians, leaving body parts scattered all over the land to the point that identifying bodies consisted of collecting the heads that were laying upon the ground. Lovely peace this was.
in 1972 there was the horror of the Munich Olympic games where the PLO terrorist murdered 11 israeli athletes. Around this time is also when PLO terrorist were sending letter bombs to Israeli officials around the world, one of which killed an attache in London.
1973 the yom kippur war.
1974-24 young children are murdered by PLO terrorist.
after this murder, in 1974 the Gush Eminim (sp?) movement began, this is the movement that this thread is directed towards, it claimed jewish rights over historic israel and pushed to settle judea and samaria (west bank and gaza)
75 or 76- savoy hotel in tel aviv attacked by terrorist from the sea
78 terrorist hijack a bus and kill dozens
after this there were terrorist attacks on ambassadors and attaches in london, paris, washington etc.
Early 80's:
PLO is busy attacking Israel from Lebanon
IDF headquarters bombed killing almost a hundred.
this goes on and on, there was no "peace" although it might be viewed as relatively peaceful compared to the present intifada.
In 1988:
Hamas published their charter, it was based on the forged protocals of Zion and called for the destruction of israel.
Arafat accepted 242 and declared Palestine a state in absentia, this also is perhaps the first movement to recognize the possibility of accepting the existence of an Israeli state, which would not have been popular to surrounding arab countries(particularly syria) or even to many of the terror factions under the PLO "Umbrella".

 

[Zargawee]

This is nothing comparing to what is happening now ...
Look at this Topic ** Contains SO VERY Agonizing Pictures **

https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2187

Add to that , You forget to say what The Israeli did on that period of time ... they did much worse !

 

[kat]

Originally posted by Zargawee
There Was a military support from we neighbors , but it stopped just after the end of the six-day war in 1967 , and after that Palestine has gone on it's own , so it's Israel's fault for not giving the Palestinans the opprtunity to have their own leadership.

Zargawee, you neglect to consider the part that jordan, syria and egypt play in Palestine's non-recognition. They had no problem with swallowing up palestinian mandate lands, Jordan was particularly hostile towards Palestinian nationism. Also, Egypt and Jordan were in opposition to one another and Egypt saw the Palestinians as a means of opposing Jordanian interests.
When they lost the June 1967 war along with a large amount of territory, this loss brought old "Arab" enemies together. Everyone wanted to get their land back and Palestinian recognition by the Arabs was lost in the shuffle. Because of this self interest of the surrounding arab countries Un 242 was written with no thought whatsoever to establishing a Palestinian state (they don't mention the palestinians at all, only a small reference to "the refugees"). The motive of the Arabs (including Jordan) was to get a resolution that would maximize the return of territory to the existing Arab states.

 

[drag]

Greetings !

Originally posted by Zargawee
Then Never talk about "The Zionists Lived in
there 2000 years ago" Or anything like that .
Because it's just some Bull-$hit , and You
Don't want to talk about it.

I never talked about this on this forum.
In fact, I don't think I ever went earlier
than the 20th century on this forum.

As for pictures, I've seen a lot on both
sides, victim pictures do not show the
way they happened. (btw, your link ain't
working.)

Live long and prosper.

 

[russ_watters]

Originally posted by Zargawee
This is nothing comparing to what is happening now ...

The past gets hazy the further away it is. It really has been as bad as now mostly nonstop for 50 years. Even in the 80s the Arabs hijacked a plane every month or so. American trave to Europe was a real big problem. When I was a kid in mid-80s, I went on a trip to Europe and they had soldiers guarding American Express offices because of the high threat of terrorism.