How Does the Jones Matrix Explain Light Polarization with Quarter Wave Plates?

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The discussion revolves around the application of the Jones matrix to explain light polarization when using a quarter wave plate (QWP). Participants explore the implications of the QWP's fast axis orientation and its effect on the polarization state of incident light, specifically focusing on horizontally and vertically polarized light.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a Jones matrix for a QWP with a fast axis horizontal and calculates the resultant polarization of vertically polarized light, questioning the interpretation of the result.
  • Another participant claims a different resultant polarization for horizontally polarized light passing through the same QWP, suggesting that the vertical polarization is retarded by a quarter wave to convert linear polarization to circular when the fast axis is oriented at 45 degrees.
  • A third participant states that if the incident polarization aligns with the fast or slow axis, there will be no change in the polarization state, arguing that the change from (0 1) to (0 -i) does not constitute a change in polarization state due to the ability to multiply by a phase factor.
  • A fourth participant agrees with the third, providing a mathematical expression to illustrate that applying a phase factor returns the original polarization state, seeking confirmation of their understanding.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the interpretation of the resultant polarization states and whether certain changes constitute a true change in polarization. There is no consensus on the implications of the Jones matrix calculations.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference specific mathematical representations and phase factors, indicating a reliance on particular assumptions about the nature of polarization and the effects of the QWP. The discussion does not resolve the interpretations or implications of these mathematical results.

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Hello, I am wondering a little about Jones matrix...

For example, If I have a Quarter Wave Plate with fast axis Horizontal, given by matrix

1 0
0 -i

and a vertically polarized light

0
1

the resultant light polarization is

0
-i

With QWP, it makes sense that if the direction of light polarization is the same as the direction of the fast, or the slow axis, then it does not make sense that the transmitted light is polarized at all, because there aren't electric field components changing phase.

So - is it ok to interpret that

0
-i

which is the resultant polarization of horizontally polarized light going through a QWP which has
fast axis also horizontal

is the same as

0
1

that is the only reasonable explanation to me thus far because nothing should happen to the polarization of light, yet the intuitive answer is different from the jones matrix one
 
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I think you made an error- I got the resultant polarization for horizontally polarized light through a QWP (fast axis horizontal) as (1,0).

Thus, the vertical polarization is retarded by a quarter wave with respect to the horizontal- in order to convert linear polarization to circular, orient the fast axis at 45 degrees to the incident polarization state.
 
For a QWP, if the incident polarisation is oriented along the fast or slow axis, then there will be no change in the polarisation state.

The change from (0 1)' to (0 -i)' is not regarded as a change in the polarisation state, as you can multiply through by an arbitrary phase factor to retrieve the original (0 1)' state.

Claude.
 
Claude, I agree.
If I have a phase factor of e^i(pi/2) then I will just get

E = 0 ihat + E0 * -i*e^i(pi/2) jhat
= 0 ihat + E0 * 1 jhat which is what I began with

Correct me if I am wrong! but it makes sense to me as of now!
 

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