How Does the Reaction Between Chemicals A and B to Form C Progress Over Time?

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The discussion revolves around the reaction kinetics of two chemicals, A and B, which combine to form chemical C. The problem involves determining the amounts of A and B remaining after a certain period and the total amount of C produced, given specific initial quantities and a reaction rate that is proportional to the amounts of A and B not yet converted.

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  • Participants explore the mathematical formulation of the reaction rate and question the proportional relationships used in the equations. There is discussion about the interpretation of the reaction kinetics and whether the provided information is relevant or excessive.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants raising concerns about the accuracy of the mathematical setup and questioning the relevance of certain details in the problem. Some participants suggest that the problem may not be primarily about kinetics, while others are attempting to clarify the relationships between the quantities involved.

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There is a mention of a potential lack of clarity regarding the long-term behavior of the reaction, particularly in relation to equilibrium and the absence of a back reaction in the kinetic laws provided. Participants are also considering the implications of the reaction ratios given in the problem.

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Two chemicals, A and B, are combined, forming chemical C. The rate of the reaction is jointly proportional to the amounts of A and B not yet converted to C. Initially, there are 50 grams of A and 80 grams of B, and, during the reaction, for each two grams of A used up in the conversion, there are three grams of B used up. An experiment shows that 100 grams of C are produced in the first 10 minutes. After a long period of time, how much of A and B remains, and how much of C has been reproduced?

dx/dt = k*(50-[tex]\frac{2}{5}[/tex]*x)*(80-[tex]\frac{3}{5}[/tex]*x)


After separation and solving for partial fractions, I obtain:

[tex]\int\frac{1}{10-2*x}[/tex] - [tex]\frac{3}{2}[/tex][tex]\int\frac{1}{16-3*x}[/tex] = k*t+c

Which then yields:

[tex]\frac{16-3*x}{10-2*x}[/tex] = C*e[tex]^{2*k*t}[/tex]

C=8/5

k=[tex]\frac{ln(71/76)}{20}[/tex]

However, something is wrong with my final equation solved for x(t) due to x(0) doesn't = 0 and x(10) doesn't = 100.
 
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x is the amount of chemical C, right? I think you making more than one mistake. You've got a (50-2x/5) going in and a (10-2*x) coming out in the partial fractions. Those aren't proportional to each other. (50-2x/5)=(250-2x)/5=(125-x)*(2/5).
 
You might as well get that sorted out, but an odd or trick question it seems to me, with superfluous information. Are you sure it is about kinetics despite the kinetic info in it? :confused: The equlibibrium is all towards product since there is no mention of back reaction in the kinetic laws given. 50g of A reacting in a 2:3 ratio with B will after a long time give you 125g of C leaving 0 A and 5g of B it seems to me.
 
epenguin said:
You might as well get that sorted out, but an odd or trick question it seems to me, with superfluous information. Are you sure it is about kinetics despite the kinetic info in it? :confused: The equlibibrium is all towards product since there is no mention of back reaction in the kinetic laws given. 50g of A reacting in a 2:3 ratio with B will after a long time give you 125g of C leaving 0 A and 5g of B it seems to me.

Good point. I wasn't taking the long view.
 

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