How Does the Unit Circle Relate to Euler's Formula in Complex Numbers?

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between the unit circle, Euler's formula, and complex numbers. Participants explore the significance of the unit circle in the context of complex analysis, its geometric properties, and its applications in trigonometry and algebra.

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Main Points Raised

  • Mike expresses confusion about the purpose of the unit circle in relation to complex numbers and Euler's formula.
  • Some participants explain that every complex number can be represented in polar form, with the unit circle representing numbers with an absolute value of 1.
  • There is a discussion about the unit circle serving as a graphical tool for complex numbers, with some participants questioning whether all complex numbers can be represented on it.
  • One participant notes that multiplication by a complex number on the unit circle results in a rotation in the complex plane, highlighting its importance in geometry and physics.
  • Another participant mentions the historical context of the connection between circles and the complex plane, referencing modular groups and conformal mappings.
  • Some participants assert that the unit circle is useful for transitioning between Cartesian and polar forms, as well as in defining trigonometric functions.
  • There are discussions about the geometric interpretation of complex equations, with one participant emphasizing the value of geometric reasoning over purely algebraic approaches.

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Participants express various viewpoints regarding the significance and applications of the unit circle, with no clear consensus on its overall utility or the extent of its representation of complex numbers. Some agree on its role in trigonometry and geometry, while others question its broader implications.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the dependence on definitions and the varying interpretations of what constitutes a "good" use of the unit circle. There are also unresolved questions about the representation of complex numbers outside the unit circle.

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Hi everyone.

I was looking at complex numbers, eulers formula and the unit circle in the complex plane.

Unfortunately I can't figure out what the unit circle is used for.
As far as I have understood: All complex numbers with an absolut value of 1 are lying on the circle.

But what about numbers outside / inside of the circle and what does it have to do with Eulers formula?

Thanks in advance for any help,

Cheers,

Mike
 
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Every complex number has a polar form, ##z = r e^{i \phi}##, where, ##r## and ##\phi## are real. The relation to the circle is ##|r| > 1## outside and ##|r|<0## inside the circle.
 
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Hi and thanks for the reply!

But what exactly is the unit circle good for?

Thanks again,

Mike
 
Paul Colby said:
Every complex number has a polar form, ##z = r e^{i \phi}##, where, ##r## and ##\phi## are real. The relation to the circle is ##|r| > 1## outside and ##|r|<0## inside the circle.
... and ##|r|<1## inside the circle.
MikeSv said:
But what exactly is the unit circle good for?
What do you mean? Which kind of answer would satisfy you? Have you read already something about complex numbers?

The unit circle is one way to demonstrate ##\cos## and ##\sin## of an angle and both are related to Euler's identity of complex numbers. Thus it is an appropriate tool to deal with geometric properties of the complex plane, see e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_circle
The unit circle plays also various roles in mathematics which are a little beyond B-level answers.

In general holds: "What is something good for?" depends completely on what is considered "good", which is a rather individual assessment.
 
Multiplication by a complex number on the unit circle causes a pure rotation in the complex plane of the number it multiplies. Because rotations and cyclic behavior are so important in geometry and physics, the complex numbers on the unit circle are very important. Many mathematicians would say that Euler's formula is the most important formula in mathematics. It always amazes me how well things work out when you use it. There are entire university courses in engineering and math where it is the central player.
(for instance, see
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Well, asking as a mathematician I wouldn't know. There is a rather extensive connection between circles and the complex plane. Most of this stuff was unearthed in the 1800's so it's not really cutting edge math. Look up modular groups. There is a wonderful two volume set "Theory of Functions" by Caratheodory published by Chelsea. One looks at 1-1 conformal mappings of the complex plane onto itself. This leads you to functions of the form,

##z' = \frac{az+b}{cz+d}## where ##ad-bc=1##

(could someone please tell me how to undo indents in this interface?)

Composing two of these mappings gives you another (called fractional linear maps) and yes, the new coefficients are found by viewing them as a matrix multiplication. My interest in this was sparked (quite a while ago) by the Lorentz group and ##SL(2,C)## connection and spinors and stuff.
 
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So basically the unit circle is just used as graphical tool for complex numbers?
Can I represent all complex numbers on the circle?
And if the absolute value is > 1,is that just because r is used as a scaling factor?

/Mike
 
MikeSv said:
So basically the unit circle is just used as graphical tool for complex numbers?
Can I represent all complex numbers on the circle?
Of course not. All complex numbers ##x+iy## with ##|x+iy|=\sqrt{x^2+y^2}=1\,##.
And if the absolute value is > 1,is that just because r is used as a scaling factor?
Yes. You can write all numbers (except ##0##) as real multiple of a complex number on the unit circle. For zero there is no well defined correspondence.
 
Great!
And I guess the unit circle is useful when chansning from cartisian to polar form and back?

/Mike
 
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MikeSv said:
Great!
And I guess the unit circle is useful when chansning from cartisian to polar form and back?
Sort of.
The unit circle is important in the study of trigonometry inasmuch as all of the basic trig functions are defined in terms of the unit circle. For example, if (x, y) is a point on the unit circle (so that ##x^2 + y^2 = 1##), then ##\cos(\theta) = x, \sin(\theta) = y##, and so on. Here, ##theta## is the angle in radians, as measured counterclockwise from the positive x-axis.
 
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MikeSv said:
Great!
And I guess the unit circle is useful when chansning from cartisian to polar form and back?

/Mike
More fundamentally, there are two ways to think about complex numbers. The first is algebraically. But, things can often get messy very quickly.

The second is geometrically. This can often simplify things. For example, if you have an equation like:

##|z - 3 - 2i| = 5##

Then, geometrically, you can see immediately that ##z## describes a circle on the complex plane, centred at ##3 + 2i## with radius 5.

It's always a good idea to check whether geometry can help with a complex numbers problem and not just to plough ahead algebraically.
 
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