How Does the Zeeman Effect Impact Hydrogen Atom Energy Levels?

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The discussion revolves around the Zeeman effect and its impact on the energy levels of hydrogen atoms, specifically addressing the origins of related expressions, magnetic field estimations, and the effects on various quantum states.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the derivation of expressions related to the magnetic field and its effects on energy levels. Questions arise regarding the appropriate values for the radius in calculations and the integration of wave functions. There is also discussion on the differences between the Zeeman Spin Hamiltonian and the Spin Orbit Hamiltonian.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, raising questions about the integration of wave functions and the implications of magnetic fields on energy states. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need for additional perturbations due to magnetic field interactions, but no consensus has been reached on specific methods or interpretations.

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There are constraints regarding the use of specific values for the radius in calculations, and participants are navigating the complexities of quantum mechanics as they relate to the Zeeman effect. The discussion reflects a mix of confusion and exploration of advanced concepts in quantum physics.

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Homework Statement



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Part (a): What's the origin of that expression?
Part(b): Estimate magnetic field, give quantum numbers to specify 2p and general nl-configuration
Part (c): What is the Zeeman effect on states 1s and 2s?

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Part (b)
H = -\frac{e}{m^2c^2} \frac{1}{r} \frac{\partial \phi}{\partial r} \vec S . \vec L
-\mu . B = -\frac{e}{m^2c^2} \frac{1}{r} \frac{\partial \phi}{\partial r} \vec S . \vec L
\frac{e}{2m}\vec S . \vec B = -\frac{e}{m^2c^2} \frac{1}{r} \frac{\partial}{\partial r} \vec S . \vec L
|\vec B| = |\vec L| \frac{e}{m^2 c^2} \frac{m}{e} \frac{1}{r} \frac{\partial \phi}{\partial r}

Now, ##|L| = l\hbar = \hbar## and ##\frac{\partial \phi}{\partial r} = E = \frac{e}{4\pi \epsilon_0 r^2}##.

|\vec B| = \frac{e\hbar}{mc^2 4\pi \epsilon_0 r^3}

What value of ##r## must I use? When I use ##r = 4a_0## it gives the right answer.. as B = 0.2 T. Why can't I use ##B = a_0##?

For the 2p configuration, n =2, j = 3/2 or n=2, j = 1/2.
For general nl-configuration, ##0 < l < n, j = l \pm \frac{1}{2}##.

Part (c)

\Delta H = -\frac{e^2}{m^2c^24\pi \epsilon_0 r^3} (\vec S . \vec L)

We are supposed to find ##\langle \Delta H\rangle##:

##\vec S . \vec L## can be written as ##\frac{1}{2}(J^2 - S^2 - L^2)##, with eigenvalues ##\frac{l}{2}## for j = l + 1/2, and ##-\frac{1}{2}(l+1)## for j = l - 1/2.

Thus for j = l + 1/2, the splitting becomes:
\frac{e^2}{m^2c^2 4\pi \epsilon_0} \frac{1}{(l+1)(2l+1)}\left(\frac{1}{na_0}\right)^3

For j = l - 1/2, the splitting becomes:
\frac{e^2}{m^2c^2 4\pi \epsilon_0} \frac{1}{l(2l+1)}\left(\frac{1}{na_0}\right)^3

I'm not sure how to proceed from here..
 
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unscientific said:
What value of ##r## must I use? When I use ##r = 4a_0## it gives the right answer.. as B = 0.2 T. Why can't I use ##B = a_0##?
The electron is not at a fixed position, you have to integrate radially the wave function, which makes the ##\langle r^{-3} \rangle## appear.
 
DrClaude said:
The electron is not at a fixed position, you have to integrate radially the wave function, which makes the ##\langle r^{-3} \rangle## appear.

Yes I get that, but for part (c), how does the magnetic field come into play?
 
DrClaude said:
You need to add an additional perturbation corresponding to the coupling with the magnetic field.
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/quantum/zeeman.html

I've been reading binney's book and I'm extremely confused. He mentioned the 'Zeeman Spin Hamiltonian' and the 'Spin Orbit Hamiltonian' - what's the difference and what are they used for?
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My understanding is that:

1. In the absence of an external electric field, the electron moving around the atom experiences a magnetic torque. This torque causes its spin to precess. This precession results in an interaction (energy) between the electron's orbital motion and spin.

2. Part (b) asks us to find the electron's own 'equivalent magnetic field' that's causing this effect. The spin interaction hamiltonian is simply ##H_{ZS} = -\vec \mu_s \cdot \vec B = -\gamma \vec S \cdot \vec B = -\frac{g_sq}{2m}\vec S \cdot \vec B = -\frac{e}{m} \vec S \cdot \vec B##

3. But in the presence of an external magnetic field, two things happen. Firstly, the spin interacts with the external field, giving hamiltonian : ##H_{ZS} = -\frac{e}{m} \vec S \cdot \vec B##.
Secondly, the electron's orbital angular momentum interacts with the external field, giving hamiltonian: ##H_l = - \vec \mu_l \cdot \vec B = -\frac{g_l q}{2m} \vec L \cdot \vec B = -\frac{e}{2m} \vec L \cdot \vec B##. In this case, ##g_l = 1## because there is no degeneracy.

Together, the TOTAL external field interaction Hamiltonian is given by:
H = H_{ZS} + H_l = \frac{e}{2m} \left( \vec L + 2\vec S\right)\cdot \vec B
 
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DrClaude said:
The electron is not at a fixed position, you have to integrate radially the wave function, which makes the ##\langle r^{-3} \rangle## appear.

Also, for part (b), the expression for the magnetic flux density is this:

|\vec B| = \frac{e\hbar}{mc^2 4\pi \epsilon_0 r^3}

For a 2p configuration, when I use ##r = a_0## it doesn't give the right answer. Only ##r = 4a_0## gives the right answer. Why is that so?
 
How do I evaluate ##\frac{Be}{2m}\langle j,m | L_z + 2S_z|j,m\rangle##?
 
I think I got it. In this question, l = 0, so ##\frac{Be}{2m}\langle j,m | L_z + 2S_z|j,m\rangle = \frac{Be}{2m}\langle \pm |2S_z|\pm\rangle = \pm \frac{Be}{2m}(\hbar)##.

If ##l \neq 0##, we have to add angular momenta.
 

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