MHB How does theta transform into theta minus pi/2 in complex numbers?

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The discussion centers on the transformation of theta into theta minus pi/2 in complex numbers, specifically using Euler's formula and co-function identities. Participants explore the equation ie^{-iθ} = e^{i(π/2 - θ)} and question the disappearance of the "i" in the transformation. One contributor argues that the equation is incorrect due to conflicting exponential factors, while another clarifies that the presence of "i" is justified by its representation as e^{iπ/2}. The conversation emphasizes the importance of correctly applying Euler's formula and understanding the relationships between sine and cosine in complex analysis.
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Can you tell me how the theta changes into theta minus pi/2? Can you show me, please?
 

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Hint: Use Euler's formula and the co-function identities for sine and cosine to demonstrate that:

$$ie^{-i\theta}=e^{i\left(\frac{\pi}{2}-\theta\right)}$$
 
MarkFL said:
Hint: Use Euler's formula and the co-function identities for sine and cosine to demonstrate that:

$$ie^{-i\theta}=e^{i\left(\frac{\pi}{2}-\theta\right)}$$

How did the "i" disappear?
 
aruwin said:
How did the "i" disappear?

$i = e^{i \frac{\pi}{2}}$
 
The problem with this 'identity' is that in the first term there is the factor $\displaystyle e^{- j\ \theta} $ and in second there is the factor $\displaystyle e^{j\ \theta}$... and that is impossible!(Tmi)...

Kind regards

$\chi$ $\sigma$
 
chisigma said:
The problem with this 'identity' is that in the first term there is the factor $\displaystyle e^{- j\ \theta} $ and in second there is the factor $\displaystyle e^{j\ \theta}$... and that is impossible!(Tmi)...

Kind regards

$\chi$ $\sigma$

Do you mean that the equation is actually wrong?
 
chisigma said:
The problem with this 'identity' is that in the first term there is the factor $\displaystyle e^{- j\ \theta} $ and in second there is the factor $\displaystyle e^{j\ \theta}$... and that is impossible!(Tmi)...

Kind regards

$\chi$ $\sigma$

Except that the second term is out by a factor of "i", which DOES make it correct.
 
aruwin said:
Do you mean that the equation is actually wrong?

Yes, I do... the correct procedure in my opinion is...

$\displaystyle \frac{E_{s}^{2} - E_{s}\ E_{r}\ e^{- j\ \theta}}{- j\ X} = j\ \frac{E_{s}^{2}}{X} - j\ \frac{E_{s}\ E_{r}}{X}\ e^{- j\ \theta} = j\ \frac{E_{s}^{2}}{X} + \frac{E_{s}\ E_{r}}{X}\ e^{- j\ (\theta + \frac{\pi}{2})}$

Kind regards

$\chi$ $\sigma$
 
chisigma said:
Yes, I do... the correct procedure in my opinion is...

$\displaystyle \frac{E_{s}^{2} - E_{s}\ E_{r}\ e^{- j\ \theta}}{- j\ X} = j\ \frac{E_{s}^{2}}{X} - j\ \frac{E_{s}\ E_{r}}{X}\ e^{- j\ \theta} = j\ \frac{E_{s}^{2}}{X} + \frac{E_{s}\ E_{r}}{X}\ e^{- j\ (\theta + \frac{\pi}{2})}$

Kind regards

$\chi$ $\sigma$

Could you explain to me how the j on the right disappeared?
 
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aruwin said:
Could you explain to me how the j on the right disappeared?

... because is $\displaystyle j= e^{\ j\ \frac{\pi}{2}}$...

Kind regards

$\chi$ $\sigma$
 
  • #11
aruwin said:
How did the "i" disappear?

This is what I had in mind:

Use Euler's formula:

$$ie^{-i\theta}=i\left(\cos(\theta)-i\sin(\theta\right)$$

Use co-function identities:

$$ie^{-i\theta}=i\left(\sin\left(\frac{\pi}{2}-\theta\right)-i\cos\left(\frac{\pi}{2}-\theta\right)\right)$$

Distribute the $i$ and rearrange:

$$ie^{-i\theta}=\cos\left(\frac{\pi}{2}-\theta\right)+i\sin\left(\frac{\pi}{2}-\theta\right)$$

Use Euler's formula:

$$ie^{-i\theta}=e^{i\left(\frac{\pi}{2}-\theta\right)}$$
 

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