How Does Topspin Affect Tennis Ball Trajectory?

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The discussion centers on the impact of topspin on tennis ball trajectory, specifically how it affects lift and drag. The Magnus effect is identified as the primary explanation for why a topspun ball dips while a back-spun ball remains airborne longer. Participants clarify that the airflow dynamics around the spinning ball lead to a pressure differential, causing lift in the opposite direction of the wake diversion. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding the interaction between spin, airflow, and pressure in sports physics.

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Hello everyone,

Using what little knowledge I have of physics, I guess that when a tennis ball is given a topspin, the velocity of the ball relative to the air is higher on the top than on the bottom of the ball. If Bernoulli's principle is applicable here, then the pressure should be higher on the bottom, giving the ball lift.

Now my guess is obviously very wrong, since the contrary always happens in fact (a top-spun ball dips and back-spun ball stays in the air longer), but I can't figure out the correct explanation for this effect. :confused:

Any help would be greatly appreciated!
 
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The faster relative speed should correspond to lower pressure, but the boundary layer is so thin (small) that it shouldn't have much effect. The theory behind Magnus effect is that the air flow near the ball tends to separate (detach) further behind the ball on the side spinning in the direction of relative air flow than it does on the side spinning into the relative air flow, resulting in diversion of the wake that trails the spinning ball, with lift being generated in the opposite direction of the wake diversion. Wiki article:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnus_effect
 
Magnus effect is way out of my depth, hehe.

Thanks for your answer, rcgldr! :smile:

By the way, I was wondering; wouldn't drag also be greater on the side moving into the airflow? So is it possible that the side of the ball moving into the airflow might actually have lower relative velocity owing to the higher drag?
 

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