How Does Z Influence Hyperbolas in the XY Plane of Quadratic Surfaces?

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The discussion revolves around the influence of the variable z on hyperbolas within the context of quadratic surfaces, specifically examining equations that define these surfaces in the xy plane.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants explore the relationship between the variable z and the shape of hyperbolas as z approaches positive and negative infinity. Questions are raised about the behavior of the hyperbola in the xy plane and its asymptotic properties.

Discussion Status

There is ongoing exploration of how the hyperbola's width changes with varying values of z, with some participants noting discrepancies between expected and observed behaviors in graphical representations. The discussion includes attempts to clarify the implications of different horizontal slices of the surfaces.

Contextual Notes

Participants are considering specific cases of the equations provided and discussing the implications of taking k as a constant in relation to the hyperbola's shape. There is mention of graphical representations that may not align with theoretical expectations.

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4x^2-y^2+2z^2+4=0
x^2-y^2/4+z^2/2+1=0
-x^2+y^2/4-z^2/2=1

In the xy trace -x^2+y^2/4=1+k^2/2 taking k=0 will yield the hyperbola but what affect will z have on the resulting surface as it tends to +- infinity
It appears to me that as z to +- infinity the hyperbola in the xy plane becomes wider and this is not the case in the graph
 
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hi nameVoid! :smile:

(try using the X2 button just above the Reply box:wink:)
nameVoid said:
-x2+y2/4-z2/2=1

In the xy trace -x2+y2/4=1+k2/2 taking k=0 will yield the hyperbola but what affect will z have on the resulting surface as it tends to +- infinity

k = 0 gives you the "horizontal" slice at z = 0

k = k gives you the general "horizontal" slice at z = k

so (for constant k) what is the shape of -x2+y2/4=1+k2/2 ? :wink:
 
I'm plotting a few points and the change in y as x changes from 0 to 1 is less as z increases causing the hyperbola to be wider although in the resulting shape it appears to be narrowing

The slice at z=0 should be the widest slice however at this point it has the greatist change in y as xbfrom 0 to 1

Mathematica shows graphs as z becomes large to be within the former this is not the obvious case given the change pattern in y from x 0 to 1 but as z becomes large it looks to be less

As becomes large the hyperbola must widen, although it is not as wide as the 0 cut it still must widen at slightly fast rate because if it's position with respect to x
 
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what about the asymptotes?

what does the 3D graph of the asymptotes look like? :wink:
 

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