How Effective Is the Tan(x/2) Substitution for Solving ∫√(1-sin(x))dx?

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The forum discussion centers on solving the integral ∫√(1-sin(x))dx using the tan(x/2) substitution. The user initially attempts the substitution with u=tan(x/2), leading to a complicated expression. A more effective approach suggested by another user involves simplifying the integral to √(1 - sin(x)) = √(1 - u)²/√(1 + u²) and translating it back to x as cos(x/2) - sin(x/2). The discussion highlights the importance of recognizing when to stop the substitution process to avoid unnecessary complexity.

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I'm looking to solve this integral with the tan(x/2) substitution but so far, I don't know what to do.

Homework Statement



\int\sqrt{1-sinx}dx

Homework Equations



u=tan(x/2)

The Attempt at a Solution



Well, using the tan(x/2) substitution, I get that:

sinx=\frac{2u}{1+u^2}
dx=\frac{2du}{1+u^2}

So I get:
\int\frac{2(u-1)du}{(1+u^2)^(3/2)}

Now I don't know what to do.

Another method I tried is multiplying by conjugate:

\int\sqrt{1-sinx}\frac{\sqrt{1+sinx}}{\sqrt{1+sinx}}dx

\int\frac{\sqrt{1-sin^2(x)}}{\sqrt{1+sinx}}dx

\int\frac{cosxdx}{\sqrt{1+sinx}}dx

u=sinx
du=cosxdx

\int\frac{du}{\sqrt{1+u}}

\int(u+1)^(-\frac{1}{2})du

2(u+1)^(\frac{1}{2}

2\sqrt{sinx+1}+ C

Obviously, this is the wrong answer but I don't see where I went wrong.

Which way should I approach this problem?
 
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noblerare said:
sinx=\frac{2u}{1+u^2}
dx=\frac{2du}{1+u^2}

So I get:
\int\frac{2(u-1)du}{(1+u^2)^(3/2)}

Hi noblerare! :smile:

Actually, you've gone too far.

tan(x/2) can be useful just for simplifying a formula … you don't necessarily have to change the vatiable of integration also.

In this case, just stop at √(1 - sinx) = √(1 - u)^2/√(1 + u^2).

Now translate it back to x … it's cos(x/2) - sin(x/2).

(to check, note that 1 - sinx = cos^2(x/2) - 2cos(x/2)sin(x/2) + sin^2(x/2) !).

So ∫√(1 - sinx)dx = √(cos(x/2) - sin(x/2))dx. :smile:
 
noblerare said:
}}[/tex]dx

\int\frac{\sqrt{1-sin^2(x)}}{\sqrt{1+sinx}}dx

\int\frac{cosxdx}{\sqrt{1+sinx}}dx



2\sqrt{sinx+1}+ C

Obviously, this is the wrong answer but I don't see where I went wrong.

Which way should I approach this problem?

Why do u think that this is the wrong answer, it looks fine to me?

(2\sqrt{sinx+1}+C)'=2\frac{1}{2}\frac{cosx}{\sqrt{1+sinx}}=\frac{cosx}{\sqrt{1+sinx}}*\frac{\sqrt{1-sinx}}{\sqrt{1-sinx}}=\frac{cosx\sqrt{1-sinx}}{\sqrt{1-sin^{2}x}}=\frac{cosx\sqrt{1-sinx}}{cosx}=\sqrt{1-sinx}

If the answer in the book is different from this one, they should be equivalent, because nothing is wrong with this.
 
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I'm sorry, tiny-tim, I still don't quite understand what you're trying to say

I understand this
tiny-tim said:
In this case, just stop at √(1 - sinx) = √(1 - u)^2/√(1 + u^2).

So far, I left my integral as so...

but
tiny-tim said:
Now translate it back to x … it's cos(x/2) - sin(x/2).

how do I change it back to x? I also don't see how cos^2(x/2) -2cos(x/2)sin(x/2) + sin^2(x/2) comes out to 1-sinx
 
Noblerare,

Your answer is correct, what else are you looking for??
 
… standard trig formulas …

noblerare said:
how do I change it back to x?

Because √(1 - u)^2/√(1 + u^2) = (1 - u)/√(1 + u^2)
= (1 - tan(x/2))cos(x/2)
= cos(x/2) - sin(x/2). :smile:
I also don't see how cos^2(x/2) -2cos(x/2)sin(x/2) + sin^2(x/2) comes out to 1-sinx

Hi noblerare! :smile:

Well, cos^2 + sin^2 = 1.

And sin2x = 2.sinx.cosx. :smile:

You really need to learn these formulas: :wink:

sin2x = 2.sinx.cosx = 2tanx.cos^2(x)
cos2x = cos^2(x) - sin^2(x)
1 + cos2x = 2cos^2(x)
1 - cos2x = 2sin^2(x)​
 

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