How far away will the ball land?

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The problem involves a ball rolling off an incline with a specified initial velocity, angle, and height, while neglecting air resistance. The objective is to determine how far the ball will land from the base of the incline.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss separating the motion into x and y dimensions, with attempts to calculate time and distance based on initial conditions. Questions arise regarding the signs of variables and the accuracy of calculations.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, exploring different interpretations of the equations and the implications of their assumptions. Some guidance has been provided regarding the calculation methods and the importance of maintaining accuracy in intermediate steps.

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There is an ongoing discussion about the correct signs for displacement and initial velocity, as well as the impact of rounding on the final results. Participants are also reflecting on how previous rounding may have affected their answers in earlier problems.

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Homework Statement


A ball rolls off an incline at a velocity of 22m/s. The angle of the incline is 32deg, and the height of the incline from the floor is 9m. Assume no air resistance.


Homework Equations


vf^2=vi^2+2ad
d=vit+1/2at^2


The Attempt at a Solution


I figured i should attempt to separate the motion of the ball into the x and y dimensions first so this was my attempt:
y motion
---------
22sin32*=11.7m/s
d=9m
vf=17.7m/s
a=-9.8
t=0.74

x motion
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vi=vf=18.7m/s because 22cos32=18.7m/s
t=0.74s

the answer is 11m, but i don't know how to get this answer...please help?
 
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1irishman said:
y motion
---------
22sin32*=11.7m/s
d=9m
vf=17.7m/s
a=-9.8
t=0.74
How did you solve for the time?
 
time
-----
9=11.7t+1/2(-9.8)t^2
9=11.7t - 4.9t^2
-2.7/-4.9=.55
sqrt .55=.74s
 
1irishman said:
time
-----
9=11.7t+1/2(-9.8)t^2
Careful: Check the sign of your 'd' and 'vi'.
 
oops...I guess 'd' is -9 because it is pointing down? And 'vi' is -11.7 because of direction too?
I got a new time of .64s
If the above is correct, i still don't know how to solve this problem...help please? Thank you.
 
1irishman said:
oops...I guess 'd' is -9 because it is pointing down? And 'vi' is -11.7 because of direction too?
Yes.
I got a new time of .64s
My answer is close to that.
If the above is correct, i still don't know how to solve this problem...help please?
Now consider the horizontal motion. You have the speed and the time.
 
d=vt
So, d= (18.7)0.64
= 11.9m
Is that correct for distance?
 
1irishman said:
d=vt
So, d= (18.7)0.64
= 11.9m
Is that correct for distance?
That's the correct method. My answer is a bit less; try doing the calculation with more accuracy until the end.
 
Yes okay thank you, because it looks like the answer in the book is around 0.9 metres less than my value. How do i calculate with more accuracy throughout in the future please?
 
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1irishman said:
How do i calculate with more accuracy throughout in the future please?
Just carry all intermediate values with more digits. Round off only at the end. For example, instead of 22sin32 = 11.7, use 11.66. And so on.
 
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Doc Al said:
Just carry all intermediate values with more digits. Round off only at the end. For example, instead of 22sin32 = 11.7, use 11.66. And so on.

Thank you for all your help! I can see where my answers have been off marginally on previous problems due to rounding off the intermediate values too soon as it were. :smile:
 

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