How Far Can a Coin Be Placed on a Rotating Record Without Slipping?

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves determining the maximum distance a coin can be placed from the center of a rotating record without slipping, given the record's rotation speed and the coefficient of static friction between the coin and the record.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between frictional force and centripetal force, with one participant attempting to equate these forces to find the distance. Another participant questions the acceleration the coin can tolerate without slipping, suggesting a formula involving the coefficient of friction and angular velocity.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the calculations and questioning the initial assumptions, particularly regarding the conversion of angular velocity. Some guidance has been offered regarding the correct conversion of rotation speed.

Contextual Notes

There appears to be confusion regarding the conversion of rotation speed from rpm to rad/sec, which may affect the calculations. The original poster expresses uncertainty about their calculations and the expected answer.

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Homework Statement


A small coin is placed on a record that is rotating at 33.3 rpm. If the coefficient of static friction between the coin and the record is 0.1, how far from the center of the record can the coin be placed without having it slipped off?


Homework Equations


w = 33.3 rpm = 1.11 rad/sec
Force due to friction = Centripetal force


The Attempt at a Solution


I tried this...
Force due to friction = .1mg = .98m
Centripetal force = ma = m((r*w^2)/r) = mrw^2 = 1.2321mr
soo...
.98m = 1.2321mr
=> .98 = 1.2321r
=> r = .795 m

Unfortunately, the answer should be .08 meters.
I thought at first that I messed up a decimal place somewhere but I can't see where. :-\
I may be going insane...
 
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What acceleration will the coin tolerate without slipping?

If the coefficient of friction is u and the mass is m then

u*m*g = m*v2/r

v = w*r =2*π*f*r

u*g/w2 = r = u*g/(2*π*f)2
 
pucr said:

Homework Equations


w = 33.3 rpm = 1.11 rad/sec
Fix that conversion.
 
ooh thanks.
It should be 3.487 rad/sec making the answer .0806 meters
 

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