Smooth rolling ball rolls down hill, how far can it fly?

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a smooth rolling ball descending a hill and the subsequent distance it can travel after leaving the hill. The subject area pertains to energy conservation, kinematics, and rotational dynamics.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to relate kinetic energy and gravitational potential energy but expresses uncertainty about how to proceed without specific values for mass and radius. Some participants suggest algebraic manipulation to express distance in terms of variables, while others discuss the relevance of mass and geometry in rolling motion.

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Participants are exploring different interpretations of the problem, with some providing algebraic insights and clarifications about the role of mass and geometry in the context of rolling objects. There appears to be some productive direction as algebraic relationships are discussed.

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There is an indication that the problem may involve assumptions about the absence of vertical components and the specifics of the ball's geometry, which are not fully defined in the original question.

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Homework Statement
A solid ball rolls smoothly from rest (At 6m) until it leaves the ramp (at 2m). How far horizontally from point 'a' does the ball hit the ground?
Hint: Smooth rolling means it does not slide.
Relevant Equations
v = ωr
a = αr
##K = \frac {1}{2}Iω^2 + \frac {1}{2}mv^2##
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Figure of the problem.

There are many exercises like these, and I've read the whole chapter and I got no clue where to start here.
Kinetic energy from gravity is: E = mgh = 39.3m
I could try change v to ωr in the K equation but it will leave me nowhere because I don't have the mass nor the radius of the ball.
I'm obviously looking for the velocity at point v, assuming it has no vertical component (altho that's not specified either), but I have no way of getting it.

Anyone has a clue what to do here?
 
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Do algebra. In the end what is requested is a distance...so write it down using r and v and m. Stuff will cancel.
 
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Addez123 said:
I could try change v to ωr in the K equation but it will leave me nowhere because I don't have the mass nor the radius of the ball.

Given that gravity acts equally on all masses, the mass in a gravitational problem such as this is never relevant.

Not quite so obvious is that for rolling without slipping, only the geometry of an object is relevant. All solid spheres roll downhill under gravity at the same rate; all hollow spheres at the same rate; all solid cylinders at the same rate etc.

As @hutchphd suggests, if you do the algebra you'll see this for yourself - in this case for solid spheres.
 
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@hutchphd @PeroK did the equation, it canceled out and I got the right answer.
It's true, all that matters is the Inertia of the solid ball.
 
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