How far down will Bush go; how far should he go?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around opinions regarding President Bush's actions and decisions related to the Iraq War, particularly concerning the justification for the war and the consequences of those actions. Participants express their views on accountability, the impact of the war, and the political implications for Bush and the Democratic Party.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Meta-discussion

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express skepticism about the claims of weapons of mass destruction (WMDs) and suggest that if Bush lied to justify the war, he should face serious consequences, including war crimes charges.
  • Others argue against hyperbolic claims regarding casualties, suggesting lower estimates for American and Iraqi deaths, while also acknowledging that these figures may still be significant.
  • There are discussions about the legality of the war and whether it can be considered a continuation of previous conflicts, with some asserting that the war was justified under international law.
  • Participants debate the feasibility of living on minimum wage, with differing personal anecdotes about financial struggles and government assistance.
  • Some express skepticism about the likelihood of impeachment hearings or significant political repercussions for Bush, while others speculate on the potential outcomes of upcoming elections.
  • One participant humorously suggests trying both Clinton and Bush simultaneously to save taxpayer money, reflecting a broader frustration with political leadership.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally disagree on the extent of Bush's accountability and the implications of his actions. There are competing views on casualty figures, the legality of the war, and the potential for political repercussions, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying assumptions about the accuracy of casualty figures and the legality of the war, with some relying on personal experiences and others citing external sources. The discussion reflects a range of perspectives without reaching consensus on key issues.

  • #31


Originally posted by Ivan Seeking
Invading a sovereign nation without provocation.
Both Iraq's sovereignty and the provacation are easy enough to argue either way. Its unrealistic to think Bush could actually be convicted of anything for attacking Iraq.
I think not. This is the point of the WMD claims controversy. This was our legal reason to attack.
Legal reason or political exercise? International affairs is nowhere near as cut and dried as suing someone in court. Yeah, it would be nice if the UN worked that way, but it doesn't. And even if UN resolutions had teeth, we have a sufficiently vague UN resolution to condone our action.
 

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