How Far Would You Travel at Light Speed from Your Perspective?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of traveling at light speed and the implications for time perception and distance traveled from different perspectives. Participants explore theoretical scenarios involving light speed travel, proper time, and the nature of massless particles in the context of special relativity.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that a lightyear is a measure of distance based on how far light travels in one year, questioning how this relates to personal time perception when traveling at light speed.
  • Proper time is discussed as the time experienced by a clock moving with an object, with some participants noting that for massless particles like photons, the proper time is zero.
  • There is contention regarding the proper time for massive versus massless objects, with some participants asserting that proper time is always non-zero for massive objects and zero for massless ones.
  • One participant suggests that if one were to hypothetically travel at light speed for a year, it would feel like zero seconds from their perspective, while another clarifies that no observer with mass can actually reach light speed.
  • Questions arise about whether a photon "feels" time, with some arguing that the proper interval for a photon is zero, while others speculate on the oscillation of photons and its implications for time perception.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express multiple competing views regarding the nature of proper time and the implications of traveling at light speed, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved.

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The discussion includes assumptions about the nature of time and mass in the context of special relativity, and the implications of these assumptions are not fully resolved.

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Readers interested in theoretical physics, particularly in the areas of special relativity and the nature of time and mass, may find this discussion relevant.

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A lightyear is a measurement of distance of how far light travels in a year relative to our time frame, correct?
Well, how far does light travel if-hypothetically- it had thought and could determine time. As if I were to travel at light speed for a year it may feel like a second. But, iff I were to travel at light speed for a year in my perspective, how far would I travel?
 
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Proper time is what is normally used to distinguish the time a clock moving with an object experiences from what is observed by others. In the situation where we have a rocket moving relative to the earth, the time measured between two events (say, leaving Earth and arriving somewhere else) by those on board the rocket is the proper time. For a photon, or indeed any massless particle, the proper time between any two points on its trajectory is zero.
 
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A light-year is the speed of light multiplied by one year ( velocity x time = distance ).

Nabeshin said:
For a photon, or indeed any massive particle, the proper time between any two points on its trajectory is zero.

Not true. The proper time for a massive object is always non-zero, and zero for massless objects.
 
Mentz114 said:
Not true. The proper time for a massive object is always non-zero, and zero for massless objects.

Thanks, meant to type massless :) Corrected.
 
HarryDaniels said:
Well, how far does light travel if-hypothetically- it had thought and could determine time. As if I were to travel at light speed for a year it may feel like a second. But, iff I were to travel at light speed for a year in my perspective, how far would I travel?

If you were to travel at light speed for a year (measured in another frame) it would feel like zero seconds in your perspective. However far you travel you would never measure a year in your perspective because your clock has stopped and the time to get anywhere by your clock is always zero. Of course no observer with mass can travel at the speed of light so this is completely hypothetical.

Now if you meant travel at (nearly) light speed for a year it may feel like a second, then if you were to travel at (nearly) light speed for 1 year from your perspective, then you could in principle travel many thousands of light years (from the perspective of another observer that measures your relative velocity to be nearly light speed) .
 
So due to the fact that a photon has no mass, it does not feel time?
 
HarryDaniels said:
So due to the fact that a photon has no mass, it does not feel time?
If something travels at c, then the elapsed coordinate time is always equal to the spatial length of the route. This means the proper-interval, (ct)2-d2 is zero. It is a postulate of SR that we can identify the proper-time as the time shown by clocks on the trajectory of a massive body, but not for objects traveling at c.

So, we can't use SR to answer that question. But if a photon of wavelength L travels a distance d, it will oscillate about 2d/L times, and so maybe it does 'feel' time. Or maybe not.

(Does anyone care ?)?
 
Mentz114 said:
(Does anyone care ?)?

Shut up and calculate.
 

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