How Fast Do Electrons Travel in a Copper Wire?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the drift velocity of electrons in a copper wire carrying a current of 5.00 A. The wire's specifications include a diameter of 2.05 mm and a known density of free electrons in copper.

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  • Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants explore the calculation of current density and its relationship to drift velocity. There are inquiries about the derivation of current density and the correct application of formulas. Some participants question the arithmetic involved in calculating the cross-sectional area and the charge of an electron.

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The discussion has seen participants providing guidance on checking calculations and clarifying the significance of using the magnitude of charge. There are ongoing explorations of the correct values to use in the calculations, with some participants correcting previous errors in their approach.

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Homework Statement


A 5.00-A current runs through a 12 gauge copper wire (diameter 2.05mm) and through a light bulb. Copper has 8.5 x 1028 free electrons per cubic meter.

c) At what see does a typical electron pass by any given point in the wire?

Homework Equations


J = nqvd

The Attempt at a Solution


The previous parts of the question I solved for current density.

J = 3.105 x 106 A / m2

n = 8.5 x 1028 electrons / m3

vd = J / n|q|

I substituted all my values in:

vd = (3.105 x 106 ) / (8.5 x 1028)(1.602 x 10-28)

vd = (3.105 x 106) / 13.167 m/s

vd = 2.28 x 105 m/s

the correct answer is vd = 0.111 mm/s

I'm sorry this is probably an arithmetic error but i can't see what I did wrong
 
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Can you show us how you arrived at your current density?
 
gneill said:
Can you show us how you arrived at your current density?

b) What is the current density?

cross section area = A = πr2 = πd2 / 4 = π(2.05x106) / 4 = 1.61 x 10-6

I = 5 A

Then current density = J = I / A = 5 / 1.61 x 10-6 = 3.105 x 106

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Also the very first part:
a) How many electrons pass through the lightbulb each second?

I = 5A = 5 C/s

5 C/s * 1s = 5C

5C / (-1.602 x 10-28) = -3.121 x 1028 electrons
 
fishturtle1 said:
b) What is the current density?

cross section area = A = πr2 = πd2 / 4 = π(2.05x106) / 4 = 1.61 x 10-6
You didn't square your diameter when you calculated the cross sectional area.

fishturtle1 said:
a) How many electrons pass through the lightbulb each second?

I = 5A = 5 C/s

5 C/s * 1s = 5C

5C / (-1.602 x 10-28) = -3.121 x 1028 electrons
Use the magnitude of the charge on the electron. The sign of the charge is unimportant if you're counting quantity, which should be a positive number.
 
gneill said:
You didn't square your diameter when you calculated the cross sectional area.Use the magnitude of the charge on the electron. The sign of the charge is unimportant if you're counting quantity, which should be a positive number.
Ok I see what you mean .. so the correct cross sectional area is:

A = π((2.05)2 x 10-3*2) / 4 = 3.30 x 10-6
J = 5 / 3.30 x 10-6 = 1.51 x 106 A / m2

So I know my J and |q| are correct..I also forgot to mention that the problem gave "Copper has 8.5 x 1028 free electrons per cubic meter" which I use as my n value.

So vd = J / n|q|.
J = 1.51 x 106
n = 8.5 x 1028 free electron / m3
|q| = 1.602 x 10-28 Cvd = (1.51 x 106) / (8.5)(1.602) = (1.51 x 106) / 13.617 = 110,890 m/s

never mind I just realized |q| = 1.602 x 10-19.. so 110,890 * 10-9 = .111 x 10-3 which is the answer in the book.

Thanks for helping me on this.
 
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